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    Re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Our troops were in Saudi Arabia by invitation, or should we have just let Hussein invade Saudi Arabia?

    Islam is a religion, period. There's no debate.
    Saudi Arabia should have their own troops protecting their country, they can afford it after all.

    And as far as discriminating against Muslims, it doesnt matter if its a religion or a race or a culture. Racism is racism.

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    Re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186

    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    Where have I demonized the entire religion of Islam?! I simply paraphrased what is in the Koran.
    I admit you are partially right - I am a hater. I hate knuckleheads who have to hide their identities behind masks while they
    chop the heads off of children, or crucify their parents in the name of Islam. I hate men who use box cutters to hijack planes, then fly them into buildings. I also hate the devils who walk into magazine offices and indiscriminantly kill journalists with guns. So...yes, I am a hater!
    Well at least you admit to that. Let me ask you, do you have any hate for people who drop laser guided bombs or use missiles to kill women and children too?

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    Re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    In my experience, and based on what I know through friends and family who are religious, churches dont address political issues, which is not surprising. The vast majority of churches in this country exist to provide religious service, as it applies to the inner spiritual needs of the individual.
    The days of Christian holy wars are long gone, as "the church" has been integrated into western democratic society as a whole.

    And no. Churches should not be getting involved in war or politics at any level. Separation of church and state is desirable.
    I agree. Still though, I wonder if a failure to condemn any particular action is tantamount to condoning that action? Especially if a person or group claims the moral high ground as part of its existence?

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    Re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Yes it is a French govt. publication. No it does not say anything about the listed areas not being patrolled by the police. You can believe whatever you wish. You did not provide any support for the the claims being made about Muslim-controlled areas no longer being patrolled by government forces.

    To support your claim you need to provide much more than a simple list of poor urban neighbourhoods. Perhaps a French newspaper story will suffice although an actual government publication warning police officers that they shouldn't patrol certain areas would provide actual backup for the claims being spewed out by the Islamophobes.
    I might take the time to look for one. However, equating what I offered with Islamophobia is insane. What I've offered are the pronouncements of the French themselves, and they are the people claiming no policing in many of those areas. If that amounts to some kind of phobia, you should take it up with the French. It's simply what they themselves have stated. Seems like they would be in the position to know.

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    Re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Saudi Arabia should have their own troops protecting their country, they can afford it after all.

    And as far as discriminating against Muslims, it doesnt matter if its a religion or a race or a culture. Racism is racism.
    Our troops werent there to protect Saudi Arabia. They were there to protect the SA supply of oil to the global economy. Anyone that thinks that is not in the US VITAL interest is unthinking.

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    Re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    I think the part you're missing is someone killing in the name of their religion? Yes a christian could serve his country and kill someone in war, but they are not killing for the sake of their religious beliefs. But radical Muslims do.. Get it?
    Yes, I do get it. And it is very true that muslims will kill to defend the principles of their religion.

    Trouble is, there are a few radical Christians who will kill to defend the anti-abortion principles of their religion.

    So really, what exactly are the differences between those 2 radical groups? Aside from a cross and a crescent moon?

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    Re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by [W:186, 217,

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding them in walk-in freezer



    The myth that Muslims simply stand idle as terrorism attacks happen is nonsense. Muslim police officers and firefighters helped during 9/11. Muslim nurses healed the victims of the Boston bombings. Muslims risk their lives every single day fighting terrorism. Millions more demonstrate against terrorism. Many more denounce attempts to radicalize them. Why people still push the bull**** lie that Muslims "are silent" while these attacks are going on is beyond me. It may be genuine run of the mill ignorance. However, when some of the people doing it are self admitted Islamophobes, one can't help but think that there is something far more sinister behind their words.
    im late to the party but god post!

    well nobody educated, honest and objective believed that myth anyway
    grouping all Muslims together is just as mentally retarded and dishonest as grouping all of a race together . . . . . . or all of another religion like Christians together. Its dumb and never taken seriously by smart people.
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    Re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Yes, I do get it. And it is very true that muslims will kill to defend the principles of their religion.

    Trouble is, there are a few radical Christians who will kill to defend the anti-abortion principles of their religion.

    So really, what exactly are the differences between those 2 radical groups? Aside from a cross and a crescent moon?
    Well, one difference would be tens of millions of radical Muslims and their sympathizers on one hand and a handful of fundamentalist Christian nuts on the other. Let me know when an army of radical Christians takes over parts of two countries and begins beheading non-believers and we might have some basis for discussion.
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    Re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by [W:186, 217,

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    im late to the party but god post!

    well nobody educated, honest and objective believed that myth anyway
    grouping all Muslims together is just as mentally retarded and dishonest as grouping all of a race together . . . . . . or all of another religion like Christians together. Its dumb and never taken seriously by smart people.
    Nobody has ever grouped 'all Muslims' together, but this nonsense that there are just as many dangerous Jews or Christians as their are radical Muslims or that this is only a tiny minority of Muslims that espouse these beliefs is just bull****.
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    Re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by [W:186, 217,

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    1.)Nobody has ever grouped 'all Muslims' together
    2.) but this nonsense that there are just as many dangerous Jews or Christians as their are radical Muslims
    3.) or that this is only a tiny minority of Muslims that espouse these beliefs is just bull****.
    1.) false there are people in this post that have and certainly on this board and even people that are major politicians or want to be (eventhough some of them quickly back peddled)
    2.) secondly i missed where me or the OP said the there are just as many dangerous Jews or Christians as their are radical Muslims in 2015, sorry that strawman fails, also the argument could be made better if you define dangerous
    3.) they are the minority
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