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    Re: George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Nor is it illegal to walk to the store and back. Trayvon's only crime was that he had the wrong skin color for GZ. You know thugs like Trayvon always get away with it, right?
    I think Trayvons age had more to do with suspicion then race.

    Zimmerman called police on a non emergency line and apparently followed T to update the police dispatcher as to his location, nothing either party did was illegal at this point. However somewhere along the line Trailane Martin is this connected with George Zimmerman's head and Georgia minute some point was on his back. There were no injuries to trayvon other than the gunshot wound. A mutual fight and there would be bruises on T, but there were not. This is evidence and those are facts. Facts are stubborn things, to quote a famous boston attorney Who handled a controversial murder defense
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    Re: George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Irrelevant. You're thinking emotionally, and not rationally.

    You have no right to privacy in public until someone is actually threatening you, and walking down the road behind you is not a threat in a legal sense.

    Trayvon was not a child, he was old enough to enlist in the Marine Corps... And maybe he shoulda
    It is not emotional. It is rational. How would you act if a grown man was following your kid (teen or otherwise) as he was walking alone at night?

    If you saw someone following your teen son as he was walking alone at night.....you would scream to your family to call 911 as you headed out the door with a tire iron.

    BTW, at 15, my son was 6'4"...height has nothing to do with nothing. But then again, he is lily white so he would not be suspect.

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    Re: George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence

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    I still am unsure what really happened.
    Well, we shouldn't be...It was laid out explicitly at trial...
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    Re: George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, we shouldn't be...It was laid out explicitly at trial...
    I am speaking to the current brouhaha.

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    Re: George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    It is not emotional. It is rational. How would you act if a grown man was following your kid (teen or otherwise) as he was walking alone at night?

    If you saw someone following your teen son as he was walking alone at night.....you would scream to your family to call 911 as you headed out the door with a tire iron.

    BTW, at 15, my son was 6'4"...height has nothing to do with nothing. But then again, he is lily white so he would not be suspect.
    Oh so now you're going to do exactly what you criticize Zimmerman for doing? Grab a deadly weapon and then run out the door to go confront him?

    That's not always an appropriate response too, unless like you recognize the guy following your child from the sex offender registry then maybe it would be an appropriate response. They may be seeing where your kid goes because he damage their property and they want to talk with you his parent, or maybe they're not really following it all maybe they're walking to the house beyond yours and happen to be taking the same path. Glad to know though that you are willing to go violent over what could be a big misunderstanding....

    So what should I have done about my new neighbors to ask who I am and what I'm doing in my neighborhood after I moved in?

    Should I have said **** off this is a free country all walk wherever the **** I want?

    Should I grab the tire iron and Ran at them?

    Display my gun at them?

    Or was the best solution what I did which is walk over them and say hello my name is Erik I just moved into the house right here?

    Do you believe that of trayvon Martin had Zimmerman confronted him he said oh my name is Trayvon Martin I live at this townhouse that there would've been a problem at all?
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    Re: George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Oh so now you're going to do exactly what you criticize Zimmerman for doing? Grab a deadly weapon and then run out the door to go confront him?

    That's not always an appropriate response too, unless like you recognize the guy following your child from the sex offender registry then maybe it would be an appropriate response. They may be seeing where your kid goes because he damage their property and they want to talk with you his parent, or maybe they're not really following it all maybe they're walking to the house beyond yours and happen to be taking the same path. Glad to know though that you are willing to go violent over what could be a big misunderstanding....

    So what should I have done about my new neighbors to ask who I am and what I'm doing in my neighborhood after I moved in?

    Should I have said **** off this is a free country all walk wherever the **** I want?

    Should I grab the tire iron and Ran at them?

    Display my gun at them?

    Or was the best solution what I did which is walk over them and say hello my name is Erik I just moved into the house right here?

    Do you believe that of trayvon Martin had Zimmerman confronted him he said oh my name is Trayvon Martin I live at this townhouse that there would've been a problem at all?
    Protecting a child from a stalker is no way shape or form what Zimmerman was doing.

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    Re: George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Protecting a child from a stalker is no way shape or form what Zimmerman was doing.
    (2) A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
    (3) A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person and makes a credible threat to that person commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.


    Nothing Zimmerman does fits these definitions therefore Zimmerman was not stalking trayvon. For it to be stocking you would have to prove that Zimmerman willfully maliciously and repeatedly harassed or followed Trayvon. except he didn't he followed trailing to facilitate a 911 call exactly once. Language matters. Following someone is not in and of itself stalking you are not entitled to privacy for anything you do in public view

    In fact your idea is even worse because you seem to think you should just take the law intoyour own hands, and not only that you seem to want to take a law that doesn't even exist into your own hands with a deadly weapon.

    Tell me this what would you do if it turned out the guy "following quote your child was just walking home to his own house?
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    Re: George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    (2) A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
    (3) A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person and makes a credible threat to that person commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.


    Nothing Zimmerman does fits these definitions therefore Zimmerman was not stalking trayvon. For it to be stocking you would have to prove that Zimmerman willfully maliciously and repeatedly harassed or followed Trayvon. except he didn't he followed trailing to facilitate a 911 call exactly once. Language matters. Following someone is not in and of itself stalking you are not entitled to privacy for anything you do in public view

    In fact your idea is even worse because you seem to think you should just take the law intoyour own hands, and not only that you seem to want to take a law that doesn't even exist into your own hands with a deadly weapon.

    Tell me this what would you do if it turned out the guy "following quote your child was just walking home to his own house?
    Poll a bunch of moms and ask what they would do if they saw a grown man following their kid (yes, including teenagers) while the kid was walking alone in the dark. Yeah...911 would be up there...but carrying a bat and saying "get the f.#@K away from my kid" would be pretty high up there. Following people - especially people walking alone in the dark is creepy. You should be worried if someone does this to you.

    I have been mugged in a similar situation. I sensed I was being followed. By the time the mugger put his hand on my shoulder - if he was only gonna ask me the time - he would have been **** out of luck. You follow someone like that....the subject gets their adrenaline in overdrive and **** happens. My perp figured that out the hard way.

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    Re: George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Poll a bunch of moms and ask what they would do if they saw a grown man following their kid (yes, including teenagers) while the kid was walking alone in the dark. Yeah...911 would be up there...but carrying a bat and saying "get the f.#@K away from my kid" would be pretty high up there. Following people - especially people walking alone in the dark is creepy. You should be worried if someone does this to you.

    I have been mugged in a similar situation. I sensed I was being followed. By the time the mugger put his hand on my shoulder - if he was only gonna ask me the time - he would have been **** out of luck. You follow someone like that....the subject gets their adrenaline in overdrive and **** happens. My perp figured that out the hard way.
    The difference being your guy actually laid hands on you first. None of the physical points to Zimmerman putting hands on trayvon first.

    If you're not comfortable with someone exercising the right to walk down a public street that their taxes pay for, then maybe you should just lock your kids in a cage and never leave your house. I don't automatically assume the worst in people. The vast majority of people in public mean you no harm, so to pretend like anyone doing something you don't approve of as a threat is really to me signs of paranoia. You're telling me Trailane Martin was frightened when he was walking inside a gated community and a guy driving a somewhat decent car inside the gated community was watching him while they were all under streetlights, and Trey Vaughn's response is to go to an unlit walkway behind buildings instead of go home, or walk up and ask what the issue is?

    This was a private neighborhood in a gated community, it was not some county road at three in the morning with no one else in sight... Or an inner-city Slum
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    Re: George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I think Trayvons age had more to do with suspicion then race.

    Zimmerman called police on a non emergency line and apparently followed T to update the police dispatcher as to his location, nothing either party did was illegal at this point. However somewhere along the line Trailane Martin is this connected with George Zimmerman's head and Georgia minute some point was on his back. There were no injuries to trayvon other than the gunshot wound. A mutual fight and there would be bruises on T, but there were not. This is evidence and those are facts. Facts are stubborn things, to quote a famous boston attorney Who handled a controversial murder defense
    Your evidence is that GZ couldn't land a blow? He's the type of guy that follows 17 year old "thugs" and beats up women... he's a pussy. That's why he didn't land a blow.

    The true fact is, no one but George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin, and God know what happened after he followed TM into the area between apartments. GZ says Trayvon circled behind him and jumped out of the bushes. I think he's full of ****, and quite frankly, he's only further proving it lately with how he's acted since.

    Everything about GZ's story is complete nonsense. Remember when he said Trayvon circled his car and stared him down?? Ohh, that ****ing thug. And then, just before he somehow managed to kill the terrible thug that was on top of him pounding his head into the pavement (but he sustained no substantial head wounds??), Trayvon says... "You're going to ****ing die tonight!".

    **** that story and **** anyone that believes it. It's a fairy tale. It makes no ****ing sense and it's the most asinine thing I've ever heard. I'm surprised GZ didn't say "Yippie Kayeh mother ****er" right before he killed him. It would have been a fantastic icing on the cake.
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