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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    No , the article posted does not say the Supreme Court refused to take into account the "Mature Minor Doctrine." It just says her lawyers were given the opportunity to present evidence that Cassandra was mature and had failed to so.

    Before a state Supreme Court makes a ruling in a case like this it reviews all of the evidence ,and testimonies from the lawyer/s and from the doctor/s( in this case several testified )the medical records including any psychological testing ). These are Supreme Court justices and usually they were judges in lower courts and federal courts before they were elected to Supreme Court.
    They base their decisions on the evidence presented to them not on emotions.
    I think you need to re read your own article...
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Really? You see value on life? Are you pro life then?
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    How about the Terry Schivo case? Where'd you fall on that?...hmm?...yeah, i thought so.
    Her husband should have been the medical decision maker because Schiavo no longer had a functional brain.
    She wasn't alive.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

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    Her husband should have been the medical decision maker because Schiavo no longer had a functional brain.
    She wasn't alive.
    Thought so, Statist to the end.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Thought so, Statist to the end.
    "Husband should have been the decision maker" somehow translates to "statist" to this guy.



    Also, "statist" doesn't mean "authoritarian." It means "person who thinks there should be a state," basically.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "Husband should have been the decision maker" somehow translates to "statist" to this guy.



    Also, "statist" doesn't mean "authoritarian." It means "person who thinks there should be a state," basically.
    Oh, excuse me, I should have said 'statist authortarian'.... Either way it is trash....Oh and it was the state that took up the cause to kill Schivo was it not?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, excuse me, I should have said 'statist authortarian'.... Either way it is trash....Oh and it was the state that took up the cause to kill Schivo was it not?
    And which part of "the husband should have been the decision maker" lead you to bring up all this?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And which part of "the husband should have been the decision maker" lead you to bring up all this?
    Certainly not the State.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Certainly not the State.
    Ok. So when I said "the husband should have been the decision maker," you just decided I secretly wanted the state to decide that case? Help me out here, I'm having a hard time figuring out how you launched into this "statism" tirade.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Ok. So when I said "the husband should have been the decision maker," you just decided I secretly wanted the state to decide that case? Help me out here, I'm having a hard time figuring out how you launched into this "statism" tirade.
    Figure it out...
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    According to the yahoo article in the OP Cassandra's lawyers had the opportunity to prove she was mature enough to make that decision and they failed to do so.
    The problem here is that maturity has nothing whatsoever to do with rights. When you turn 18, you get those rights whether you are mature or not. So why should maturity matter in this case, or in any case? That really makes no sense. If they're going to say she's under 18 and therefore has no rights, fine. Don't hold out the carrot of "if only she was mature enough..." because it has zero bearing on the case.
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