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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Well she wouldn't be a prisoner if she had just went to the chemo therapy appointments like she agreed to, and if her mom wasn't some hippie anti-science freak. The day she turns 18 she can tear off the chemo tubes and walk right out the door and tell then she's a minor in the state has to protect her interests
    Anyone with children ought to be frightened of that statement there, poor decision in this case or not.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Let us put this case in perspective, it is very rare for a state to take to over custody of minor for medical treatment.
    It is so rare that is news worthy.

    We were not witness to the court case and do not know all the information that was presented.
    Apparently there was good reason why the State Supreme Court felt she was incompetent to make her own decision and why she was temporally removed from her mother's custody
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Anyone with children ought to be frightened of that statement there, poor decision in this case or not.
    Why? You think parents have a right to neglect their children?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Let us put this case in perspective, it is very rare for a state to take to over custody of minor for medical treatment.
    It is so rare that is news worthy.

    We were not witness to the court case and do not know all the information that was presented.
    Apparently there was good reason why the State Supreme Court felt she was incompetent to make her own decision and why she was temporally removed from her mother's custody
    So, do you think all state action is proper?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Why? You think parents have a right to neglect their children?
    A 17 and 3/4 yr old is not the same as a 10 yr old. So I see it more as amancipation.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    I think the girl had her day in court.
    She was represented by her lawyers.

    She probably went through a psychological test since she deemed incompetent to make her own health care choice as a minor.

    Once she turns 18 she can make her own choice regarding medical treatment.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I think the girl had her day in court.
    She was represented by her lawyers.

    She probably went through a psychological test since she deemed incompetent to make her own health care choice as a minor.

    Once she turns 18 she can make her own choice regarding medical treatment.
    At what point do you draw the line concerning state authority over an individual right to make their own decisions?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    At what point do you draw the line concerning state authority over an individual right to make their own decisions?
    I would consider it on a case case by basis but generally when the individual is a minor who is not competent enough to make her/ her own health care decisions.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I would consider it on a case case by basis but generally when the individual is a minor who is not competent enough to make her/ her own health care decisions.
    What is the age of self amancipation in CT?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What is the age of self amancipation in CT?
    I don't know but even she became emancipated that would not make her an adult.
    It would only mean her parents would no longer be her legal guardians and she would have a new one appointed to her by the court.
    Courts review the evidence presented by petitioners and grant emancipation in cases where sufficient proof of circumstances and conduct determines emancipation as a best interest of a child. Factors such as the child's age; the mental and physical welfare of the child; the ability of the parents to provide basic material support to the child in the form of food, shelter, clothing and medical care; and the mental and physical welfare of the parents all play an important role in establishing a child's best interest. The courts require petitioners submit substantial evidence of emancipation's necessity before deciding to terminate parental rights and responsibilities because emancipation of a minor by judicial decree represents a significant juridical decision that in most cases irreversibly transforms the common law mandate of providing custody and care for their minor children that parents bear.
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    http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/emancipation_of_minors

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