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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So the reason she should be held captive by the state, according to the state no less, is because she made a decision towards her own person they deem as unacceptable. Just think people like you find their actions justified.
    So far the state is winning and your concept of "rights" isn't. It does not matter whether I think it is justified or not. That just is the reality of the situation.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Who cares if she dies? Seriously, what vested interest does the state have in keeping absolutely every living human being alive for as long as possible, especially if they don't want to be. T
    The state doesn't try to keep absolutely every living human being alive for as long as possible, especially if they don't want to be. Where did you get this idea? Why is this a black and white issue for you? Because it sure isn't black and white for me, or for the state.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So the reason she should be held captive by the state, according to the state no less, is because she made a decision towards her own person they deem as unacceptable. Just think people like you find their actions justified.

    Btw, I like how you argue that you're a slave to the state. That's a real smart argument you have there, bro.
    She is having her life saved by the state because her mother is trying to kill her.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    She is having her life saved by the state because her mother is trying to kill her.
    Where is the evidence that her mother is trying to kill her? The last time I checked the young woman made a choice she didn't want treatment and when she made that desire clear the state imprisoned her in a hospital and forced treatment on her.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Where is the evidence that her mother is trying to kill her? The last time I checked the young woman made a choice she didn't want treatment and when she made that desire clear the state imprisoned her in a hospital and forced treatment on her.
    She's a minor and isn't equipped to make that decision solo, and her mother filled her head with the hippie bull**** idea that some "alternative medicine" will make her life better.

    Her mother is trying to kill her with hippie bull****. The fact that it's unintentional isn't terribly relevant.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The state doesn't try to keep absolutely every living human being alive for as long as possible, especially if they don't want to be. Where did you get this idea? Why is this a black and white issue for you? Because it sure isn't black and white for me, or for the state.
    Then what is the vested interest in keeping this girl alive, especially when the girl and her parents don't want her to be? Please explain.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Then what is the vested interest in keeping this girl alive, especially when the girl and her parents don't want her to be? Please explain.
    I have read several different articles about this case and the father was never mentioned.

    Do you have a link where her father says he doesn't want his daughter to receive treatment?

    To answer your question ...the state took an interest because

    In November, the teen had said under oath that she would get treatment, but she ran away and failed to appear at chemotherapy appointments. This, the court ruled, was an indication of Cassandra's lack of maturity.

    She has been undergoing chemotherapy against her wishes for three weeks. After she missed follow-up appointments, the hospital contacted the Connecticut Department of Children and Families (DCF) out of concern that this was a situation of medical neglect.

    After an investigation, DCF requested temporary custody of Cassandra. She was removed from her mother's home and placed with a relative.
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    http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/justic...ut-teen-chemo/
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Then what is the vested interest in keeping this girl alive, especially when the girl and her parents don't want her to be? Please explain.
    1) The girl is a minor and every state has provisions to protect the health and welfare of minors.
    2) The mother is proving herself to be incapable of making responsible medical decisions on her daughter's behalf, per the opinion of the judges plural who have heard this case and judged it on the merits, based on the evidence in front of them.
    3) Once she reaches the age of 18, she can eat shelled pistachios and drink lime flavored sparkling water and pretend that it's a natural treatment for cancer, and the state will not intervene.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What !akes it a story, is that the over-reaching government thinks she doesn't have that right and they want to use their tyrranical authority to force her to go through treatment. However, she most certainly has the right to refuse treatment.
    The day she turns 18 she has the right to refuse treatment until then she's a minor in the state connect in her best interest on her behalf because she's obviously too dumb to know better.

    My prediction is a year from now when she's in remission, she'll probably be looking back at her life thinking was I that much of a dumb ass
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    From the sounds of it she is a prisoner of the state, but instead of being housed in a prison she is being housed in a hospital and having unethical doctors do treatment to her against her will.
    Well she wouldn't be a prisoner if she had just went to the chemo therapy appointments like she agreed to, and if her mom wasn't some hippie anti-science freak. The day she turns 18 she can tear off the chemo tubes and walk right out the door and tell then she's a minor in the state has to protect her interests
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