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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    No I beleive abortion is killing a human life, and I dont think she should be allowed to commit suicide. This isnt one of those things where she will be miserable for a while and die anyway. It is likely if she undergoes treatment she will live a long happy life. If not she is just die. Get off the goobermnet bad thing for a minute and think about right and wrong, not right and left.
    The government doesn't have the authority to force her to undergo treatment. Its her right to refuse treatment. Right, or wrong; like it, or not, that's the way it is. I don't believe the government should be able to force your beliefs on someone else.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    I do not think she should be allowed to commit suicide, and refusing treatment is exactly that. Do you think she should be allowed to committ sucide?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    No I beleive abortion is killing a human life, and I dont think she should be allowed to commit suicide. This isnt one of those things where she will be miserable for a while and die anyway. It is likely if she undergoes treatment she will live a long happy life. If not she is just die. Get off the goobermnet bad thing for a minute and think about right and wrong, not right and left.
    So you're all for the government locking someone in a room against their will, and forcing them to take in arguably harmful chemicals into her body against her will....Hmmm...Way to go Marine. *shakes head*
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    So you are all for letting children kill themselves? Cause that is exactly what you are saying. Get off the gooberment bad thing for a minute and think. Do you really want to let this girl die for no reason?
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    So you're all for the government locking someone in a room against their will, and forcing them to take in arguably harmful chemicals into her body against her will....Hmmm...Way to go Marine. *shakes head*
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Just out of couristy, do you think the nurses and doctors coming back from treating ebola patients should be isolated even if not contagious?
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you're all for the government locking someone in a room against their will, and forcing them to take in arguably harmful chemicals into her body against her will....Hmmm...Way to go Marine. *shakes head*
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    She's 17. When she turns 18 she can decide if she wants to let herself die, until then matured minds make her decisions for her.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Do you think she should be allowed to commit suicide?
    Commit suicide? Where does suicide come in to it? There is no suicide here, that's crazy to suggest. Should she listen to her doctors and follow their suggestions and course of action? Probably yes, but not doing so is not suicide, it's perhaps foolish.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    She's 17. When she turns 18 she can decide if she wants to let herself die, until then matured minds make her decisions for her.
    The mature minds in this case are her parents, not the state. This is less about this particular person and more about when does a state have the right to decide what is best for a child without the consent of the parents. Do children belong to their legal parent/guardian or do they really belong to the state. Obviously in cases where there is neglect or abuse it's one thing.... but there was no neglect or abuse in this case, at least none identified so far.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    If you are almost certain to live if you take the chemo and almost certain to die without it, and you can take it and refuse, what do you call it? Its suicide.
    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Commit suicide? Where does suicide come in to it? There is no suicide here, that's crazy to suggest. Should she listen to her doctors and follow their suggestions and course of action? Probably yes, but not doing so is not suicide, it's perhaps foolish.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Letting her die for no reason is clearly abuse.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The mature minds in this case are her parents, not the state. This is less about this particular person and more about when does a state have the right to decide what is best for a child without the consent of the parents. Do children belong to their legal parent/guardian or do they really belong to the state. Obviously in cases where there is neglect or abuse it's one thing.... but there was no neglect or abuse in this case, at least none identified so far.
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