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Thread: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    I voted no in the poll. I do not feel the government should be able to overrule individual people in the health care choices they make. However, for clarity, that does not mean that I think the justices ruled wrongly, I do not know the laws of the state well enough to judge, only that I feel that it should not be right.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You seem confused about what the IPAB was supposed to do. IPAB was to recommend what the government would pay for, not what treatments where actually available and who got them. That is a rather large, unsubtle difference. This case is judges deciding not who paid for treatment, but whether some one got a treatment at all. Major difference.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Couldn't have just joined the existing thread?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In essence, the government is confining a 17 year old girl in a hospital room, and forcing her to undergo chemotherapy. With the chemo, she has an 85 percent chance of a cure. Without the chemo, she will likely be dead within 2 years.

    I have posted a poll with this thread, since I would like to know what everybody thinks of this. This is a very tough issue. Does the government have a right to mandate a life and death decision when the wrong choice is probably death? What about for adults? What about for children? Does the government have the right to take over a parenting function from the parent in some circumstances? Is the government acting in the child's interest, or is the government going overboard? Is this big government at work, or should government be a little big at times? There are a lot of angles to this issue, and I would like to hear as many as possible.

    Thank you.

    Article is here.
    The court decision was grievously immoral. She has a right to decline chemotherapy, or other such dangerous treatments.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    OK, let me play devil's advocate here. Assuming that the girl wanted to commit suicide by putting a bullet in her head, and the mother was such a sicko that she supported it, would it be the government's right to step in and stop it? If the answer is yes, then what is different about this case that the government has no right to step in.?
    A person has a right to suicide in my book.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    OK, let me play devil's advocate here. Assuming that the girl wanted to commit suicide by putting a bullet in her head, and the mother was such a sicko that she supported it, would it be the government's right to step in and stop it? If the answer is yes, then what is different about this case that the government has no right to step in.?
    The difference is she doesn't want to commit suicide.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You seem confused about what the IPAB was supposed to do. IPAB was to recommend what the government would pay for, not what treatments where actually available and who got them. That is a rather large, unsubtle difference.
    You have misrepresented it. The IPAB determines what the government would pay for, which effectively is also determining what treatments are actually available.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You have misrepresented it. The IPAB determines what the government would pay for, which effectively is also determining what treatments are actually available.
    Except it does not determine what treatments are available. There are any number of available treatments the government does not pay for.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Except it does not determine what treatments are available. There are any number of available treatments the government does not pay for.
    sure there is. Ask any Medicaid recipient how easy and plentiful providers are.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    sure there is. Ask any Medicaid recipient how easy and plentiful providers are.
    Funny. I've seen hundreds of Medicaid recipients and no one has ever complained to me about scarcity of providers.
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