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Thread: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    If nothing else, my life experiences have taught me that life and time are the most precious things we have.

    At the end of the day it's up to each individual what they do with that.

    doctors said would give her an 85 percent chance of survival. Without it, they said, there was a near certainty of death within two years.
    Pretty good odds right there. I know people right now and some who have already passed that are fighting for their lives with everything they have that would love to have odds as good as that.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Chemo is a sorry excuse for a medical treatment. Treating cancer by destroying the body is pathetic.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You began with this....

    And then began talking about government panels, as if it applied here.
    No, I didn't. I explicitly and exclusively pointed to the IPAB as it pertained to the notion of whether or not government belonged in these kinds of decisions.

    In case you need to reference.

    You want to get your panties in a wad because someone nationalized it? Go talk to DemSocialist.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Why does the mother have more of a right than the government--both of them are telling the girl what she has to do whether she agrees or not?

    No the decision should not be in the hands of the girl. Eating grass juice isn't going to slow or cure her cancer and she is foolish to think it will. When she is 18 she can legally decide for herself, but by then, perhaps she will be on the home stretch. I really do not know what stage she is in, but it sounds like she is very early on and is highly treatable.
    Chemo doesn't cure cancer. It basically a treatment that works by causing massive amounts of harm to the body. In fact, I imagine it actually causes more harm than it acts to fix.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    She's a minor. She has an extremely treatable cancer.

    Her mother is apparently unstable, because she wants her to be treated irrationally. This isn't like some rare, tough to treat cancer....

    People are free to be stupid. But people are not free to sentence minors to a death sentence because they insist on being stupid.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Chemo doesn't cure cancer. It basically a treatment that works by causing massive amounts of harm to the body. In fact, I imagine it actually causes more harm than it acts to fix.
    You imagine wrong.

    Hodgkins is commonly completely curable.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    and why did you bring up Obama?
    So it didnt? Because in reality the ACA had nothing to do with this..... And to answer your question "why I brought up Obama", is because I was being sarcastic.


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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Chemo doesn't cure cancer. It basically a treatment that works by causing massive amounts of harm to the body. In fact, I imagine it actually causes more harm than it acts to fix.
    It is part of the established treatment regimen. Yes chemo and radiation have side effects, sometimes grave ones, but this girl didn't even have an alternate treatment plan. She just assumes there is something herbal out there that will help her, undoubtedly because that is what he mother has mislead her into believing.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No, I didn't. I explicitly and exclusively pointed to the IPAB as it pertained to the notion of whether or not government belonged in these kinds of decisions.

    In case you need to reference.

    You want to get your panties in a wad because someone nationalized it? Go talk to DemSocialist.
    No. The Independent Payment Advisory Board, which was created under the Affordable Care Act, has absolutely nothing to do with this topic. Her treatment has absolutely nothing to do with "Nationalization" of health care, as you put it. This case was decided entirely by courts in the State of Connecticut, after doctors filed a complaint with the state's Child Welfare Agency.

    And please, one last time, stop derailing the discussion, and please stop the baiting too.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    You imagine wrong.

    Hodgkins is commonly completely curable.
    Yeah? So patients can expect to stay in remission?

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