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Thread: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Which is fantastic, unfortunately, all I see in your article is that it passed the House last year, not that it passed the Senate or was signed by the President?



    Not at all - when it comes to the matter of whether or not we want government impacting these decisions, discussion of the IPAB is relevant.
    From a January 2015 article:


    When the ACA passed, it looked like IPAB would have plenty to do. Medicare costs had exceeded IPAB’s spending thresholds in 21 of the previous 25 years. The Congressional Budget Office projected that the panel would save $15.5 billion over 10 years.

    Then three things happened.

    First, Senate Republicans made it clear they would filibuster any IPAB appointees, who need Senate confirmation.

    Second, even after the Senate changed its rules to require only 51 votes to confirm presidential appointees, the President never nominated any IPAB members.

    Third, it turned out IPAB wasn’t needed, which is likely why the President decided not to expend any political capital trying to create it.

    Medicare spending growth has, quite unexpectedly, slowed dramatically over the past several years, staying under IPAB’s thresholds. As the exhibit below shows, per-beneficiary Medicare spending is not currently projected to exceed the IPAB thresholds until 2022.
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    http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publ...tching-the-dog
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    From a January 2015 article:



    To see exhibit per beneficiary see link:

    IPAB: Ditching the Dog That Didn't Bark - The Commonwealth Fund
    So yes, in fact, it is still in the law, and hasn't been repealed.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    So yes, in fact, it is still in the law, and hasn't been repealed.
    And the President and Democrats will give up that dog that didn't bite in a compromise and the GOP can claim victory.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    And the President and Democrats will give up that dog that didn't bite in a compromise and the GOP can claim victory.
    let's hope so, but I doubt it.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    let's hope so, but I doubt it.
    Well , compromise would involve the GOP giving up something they wanted so perhaps you are right to doubt it but still
    the IPAB can be a good bargaining chip for the President and the Democrats since the IPAB in all likelihood is already toast.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Well , compromise would involve the GOP giving up something they wanted so perhaps you are right to doubt it but still
    the IPAB can be a good bargaining chip for the President and the Democrats since the IPAB in all likelihood is already toast.
    When will obama give up something? I dont see it. All I hear is veto threats.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    When will obama give up something? I dont see it. All I hear is veto threats.
    Watch and see. The IPAB will be offered/used as a bargaining chip in a political compromise/attempted compromise.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    And it starts:

    The panel that never was appointed ....the panel that is no longer and never was needed...the panel that is already "toast"....

    From a January 8, 2015 entry to Senator Cornyn's blog

    Senator Cornyn Bill Would Eliminate Obamacare’s IPAB
    By John Cornyn

    Obamacare is a terribly misguided and fundamentally flawed law that is negatively impacting Texans and Americans across the country. This bill tackles one of the law’s most egregious flaws and starts the process of putting health care decisions back in the hands of patients. Seniors and their families deserve to be in control of their health care decisions, not at the mercy of a board of unelected bureaucrats who think they know best.
    By John Cornyn at Jan 9, 2015 9:31 AM
    Posted under: Stop Big Government United States Obamacare 114th Congress

    - See more at: Senator Cornyn Bill Would Eliminate Obamacare

    The Senator is trying to make it appear that the elimination of the IPAB will actually hurt/eliminate the ACA

    Too funny
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Watch and see. The IPAB will be offered/used as a bargaining chip in a political compromise/attempted compromise.
    Let's hope so.
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