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Thread: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You have misrepresented it. The IPAB determines what the government would pay for, which effectively is also determining what treatments are actually available.
    So if they won't pay for aspirin, does that mean aspirin disappears?

    I suppose your solution is to just have them pay for everything? Or have for profit companies make decisions based on cost rather than cost effectiveness?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

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    Funny. I've seen hundreds of Medicaid recipients and no one has ever complained to me about scarcity of providers.
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    Even the liberal Kaiser group says that a third of doctors aren't taking new medicaid patients

    which is perhaps why Medicaid patients are in at best in the same and at worst in worse health than those who are completely uninsured.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    sure there is. Ask any Medicaid recipient how easy and plentiful providers are.
    Most people are not on medicaid, and availability varies widely.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Most people are not on medicaid, and availability varies widely.
    That is correct - Medicaid is worthy of inclusion here because it illustrates what happens when we have rationing boards whose mandate is to hold down costs through effectively denying services through the mechanism of offering too low reimbursement rates.

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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Why No One on Medicaid Can Find a Doctor (and Why ERs Are Busier than Ever)
    New research shows the health coverage gap for people of different races is shrinking, but the newly insured can’t always find a doctor to treat them.

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    Even the liberal Kaiser group says that a third of doctors aren't taking new medicaid patients

    which is perhaps why Medicaid patients are in at best in the same and at worst in worse health than those who are completely uninsured.
    I can only tell you what I've seen in practice, and with interactions with literally hundreds of Medicaid and uninsured patients.

    Apparently, you can only tell me what you've seen on Conservative websites!

    Medicaid patients are certainly in worse health. But it's not because they are covered by Medicaid. Really. It's generally because they've been uncovered and untreated for years, and, especially before the ACA, many were on Medicaid because they WERE sick, couldn't work and afford care, and ended up on Medicaid. Also, young healthy people don't bother to sign up for Medicaid.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That is correct - Medicaid is worthy of inclusion here because it illustrates what happens when we have rationing boards whose mandate is to hold down costs through effectively denying services through the mechanism of offering too low reimbursement rates.
    So now we are just moving the goalpost. Not even trying to defend your claim any more, just move onto the next complaint.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So now we are just moving the goalpost. Not even trying to defend your claim any more, just move onto the next complaint.
    Please don't feed the troll. He has been attempting to derail this thread for days with conspiracy theories.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So now we are just moving the goalpost. Not even trying to defend your claim any more, just move onto the next complaint.
    How exactly is Will moving any goalposts....? From what I see, his argument is spot on.
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I can only tell you what I've seen in practice, and with interactions with literally hundreds of Medicaid and uninsured patients.

    Apparently, you can only tell me what you've seen on Conservative websites!

    Medicaid patients are certainly in worse health. But it's not because they are covered by Medicaid. Really. It's generally because they've been uncovered and untreated for years, and, especially before the ACA, many were on Medicaid because they WERE sick, couldn't work and afford care, and ended up on Medicaid. Also, young healthy people don't bother to sign up for Medicaid.
    Aren't we told often by liberals that anecdotal evidence isn't good enough?
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    Re: APNewsBreak: Girl says she knows she'll die without chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You have misrepresented it. The IPAB determines what the government would pay for, which effectively is also determining what treatments are actually available.
    Except we never had the IPAB and since congress has already gutted the funding for it we most likely will never have the IPAB.

    http://www.modernhealthcare.com/arti...NEWS/301249973

    I find it pretty laughable you are still trying to derail this thread with a non existent board.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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