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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Breaking News fresh off the presses! Not really sure how all this will work. I guess when it fails in the Congress he'll blame the Republicans...

    Obama: President Proposes 2 Free Years of Community College

    Does anyone have any thoughts as to how this can actually work?

    Because I'm not liking this idea:
    I can see Obama's back to giving away free **** with everyone else footing the bill.
    Thinking back, we've seen this crap from him before.
    Problem is that it never turns out as well as what he's selling and saying.
    Guess there's always trouble when theory hit reality and gets mugged.
    What's really troubling is the stupid people that keep falling for it, and aren't learning from experience.
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Or regulate the educational industry and lower interest rates and/or free education.
    Free eduction usually just involves some government monopoly or giveaway that increases access and fails to lower cost. I don't know what you have in mind for regulations but it would appear to me the only way to control costs through regulations is to essentially control their business decisions. Those kind of regulation are more or less a government takeover.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Ever heard of 200 in a college lecture room instead of 150 ?
    only if there is room enough for it. and if the place is rated to hold that many people.
    you have to comply with occupancy ratings.

    if you can't come up with a real argument then please stop responding.

    the fact is not all classrooms hold 200 people. there are classrooms that hold 30 or 40 people tops.
    it means those classes need more teachers. that doesn't include classes that require lab work.

    not all class rooms are 200 student lecture halls.

    please tell me who is going to pay for it and how?

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Nothing devalues a college degree more than everybody having one.
    not even that very few companies will take a 2 year degree. heck they are getting tired of taking 4 years. they want masters and PHD's

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    only if there is room enough for it. and if the place is rated to hold that many people.
    you have to comply with occupancy ratings.

    if you can't come up with a real argument then please stop responding.

    the fact is not all classrooms hold 200 people. there are classrooms that hold 30 or 40 people tops.
    it means those classes need more teachers. that doesn't include classes that require lab work.

    not all class rooms are 200 student lecture halls.

    please tell me who is going to pay for it and how?
    Does he realize we are talking about community college? Community colleges don't usually have classrooms that can hold 200 people.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    not even that very few companies will take a 2 year degree. heck they are getting tired of taking 4 years. they want masters and PHD's
    It's a tough problem. I think most of it is nonsense created by employers to simply try to filter people through various means rather than utilizing their employee's skill sets. It's just another idiotic social norm to tell the employer that you're above the cut and deserving of a job. It's yet another extension of paying deference to the idiosyncrasies of the owning and hiring class. Unfortunately for the rest of us, it makes it more expensive to just "get the edge" on the "other guy."
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    only if there is room enough for it. and if the place is rated to hold that many people.
    you have to comply with occupancy ratings.

    if you can't come up with a real argument then please stop responding.

    the fact is not all classrooms hold 200 people. there are classrooms that hold 30 or 40 people tops.
    it means those classes need more teachers. that doesn't include classes that require lab work.

    not all class rooms are 200 student lecture halls.

    please tell me who is going to pay for it and how?
    Your only purpose here is to post against a new idea by Obama--we all get that.
    My purpose in life is to continue to support our local HS in retirement and help parents with developing a plan to afford college.
    Not to mention my own family and friends .
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Does he realize we are talking about community college? Community colleges don't usually have classrooms that can hold 200 people.
    Can you verify that with your extensive knowledge on community colleges?
    Again, your purpose here is to knock down an Obama idea--when your GOP is devoid of ideas .
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think when it comes to student loans and education the Republicans are usually wrong. It seems many of them think those with debt were "irresponsible borrowers" and many haven't been in graduate education for years, back when they all went to law school tuition wasn't as outrageous. Some are proponents of "work your way through school" which simply isn't possible for graduate programs and increasingly difficult for undergrad ones as well. They don't realize that in today's day and age it's not uncommon for graduate programs to charge 40k+ for tuition on top of living expenses for which loans are basically the only option to pay for that.
    I agree with the exception that I don't think we should be helping out with law school as there are already way too many lawyers anyway.
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Does he realize we are talking about community college? Community colleges don't usually have classrooms that can hold 200 people.
    yea I don't think he gets it either.

    I went to a community college my first time. the largest room was the science auditorium. I think it might have held 200 people.
    that was it most held 20-40 maybe 50 people at max.

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