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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by LZRD WZRD View Post
    You think kids with a C+ average are getting "good grades"?
    doesn't matter where they draw the line.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol.....


    " President Hillary Clinton " is just a bit less ridiculous than a Majority Democrat House.

    Clintons influence in the Midterms was nada, zero, zilch.

    Opposing it isn't Political suicide, because its a ridiculous idea.
    It is a politically brilliant idea because the red state governorships will go down in the obstruction. You fail to recognize the willingness of people to jump ship for an election if there is a payoff for them---it is why liberal northern virginia turned out in droves for the GOP governor candidate a decade and a half or so just because he vowed to eliminate their personal property taxes on cars.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Thank you for agreeing that the GOP House is what GOPs charged Sen. Reid was all about .
    no idea what you are talking about. have a nice day.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The problem appears to be the cost associated with college, so the question I have for Obama and anyone else that supports giving away access to college is how does that lower cost? If the government stopped providing student loans and allowed the market to control interest rates colleges would no longer be capable of getting whatever they want out of people. They would have to deal with the fact that the government isn't acting as everyone's sugar daddy and price their product with some sort of restraint.

    Yes, my solution isn't concerned with everyone getting access, and to be honest, the only solution that can truly maximize access is one that maximizes price.
    if anything it increases it.

    higher demand equals more cost.

    it means more classes more teachers more everything. you will see college prices go through the roof to meet the demand of students wanting to take classes.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Sounds to me like Obama is willing to do a little horse trading.

    He sees the reality of the GOP controlling both houses and he knows that if he takes out his veto pen every time they send him a bill that the Democrats will feel the wrath at the polls in 2016. This smells like he's floating a deal...
    I just commented on the same idea in another tread.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    if anything it increases it.

    higher demand equals more cost.

    it means more classes more teachers more everything. you will see college prices go through the roof to meet the demand of students wanting to take classes.
    Class sizes will simply get bigger--meaning lower cost per pupil.
    Ever been involved in education ?
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's specifically what I'm concerned with. I think the country's best path forward to assured dominance in the world is taking advantage of the potential intellectual wealth in our large population through the promotion of the best and smartest among us. Abandoning the poor to non-education just because they're poor is a massive waste of resources and harms us all in the long run. Education is a massive investment -- just ask the Indian and Chinese governments that have been sending their citizens here to learn engineering and computer technology in our best technical universities for decades. No fools, they. And how are they doing now? Oh yeah, they're taking all our blue and white collar base.
    I agree with you about the enduring value of education and that it's absolutely worth the investment. You should ask those international students their opinions of their American classmates' academic maturity and work ethics. I'm not kidding.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    If we can figure out a way to pay for it without hitting the middle class I'm all for it.
    However, I think it should also include trade schools as college ain't for everyone.
    I like your comment about trade schools.
    Our local community college already has a huge trade school component.

    Not to mention some students are already coming out of high school with the full 60 hours and an AA, but normally from 0-30 .
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I agree with you about the enduring value of education and that it's absolutely worth the investment. You should ask those international students their opinions of their American classmates' academic maturity and work ethics. I'm not kidding.
    Why the constant slam from conservatives on American students ?
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Why the constant slam from conservatives on American students ?
    Coming from an educator's standpoint myself, the American appreciation for education is utterly abhorrent. Americans can be counted on to be late and demand to be served. The Asians are there to learn, and they treat their teachers like gods.
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