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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    $34B is doable. It is limited to kids with good grades.
    You think kids with a C+ average are getting "good grades"?

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Breaking News fresh off the presses! Not really sure how all this will work. I guess when it fails in the Congress he'll blame the Republicans...

    Obama: President Proposes 2 Free Years of Community College

    Does anyone have any thoughts as to how this can actually work?

    Because I'm not liking this idea:
    First of all, I would guess that this idea is simply politics to show how mean the rebpublicnats are for not jumpibg at the chance to give away more borrowed money. My second thought was how can any plan (much less a "future" plan with no details) help the "average" student while funding classes only for the "good" (above average?) students? Putting masses of folks into college classrooms and then funding only those that get "good" grades would most likely do two things; 1) inflate grades and 2) inflate tuition costs.
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    "Free" my ass

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think when it comes to student loans and education the Republicans are usually wrong. It seems many of them think those with debt were "irresponsible borrowers" and many haven't been in graduate education for years, back when they all went to law school tuition wasn't as outrageous. Some are proponents of "work your way through school" which simply isn't possible for graduate programs and increasingly difficult for undergrad ones as well. They don't realize that in today's day and age it's not uncommon for graduate programs to charge 40k+ for tuition on top of living expenses for which loans are basically the only option to pay for that.
    You do mean 40k per year, right?

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Such as other solutions or other markets that have driven themselves to be unmarketable? How do you go about fixing the problem of cost by giving potential consumers of colleges more capability to get what they can't afford? While that might help individual consumers it should allow colleges to raise their costs even more without feeling any negative consequences of their actions. A better solution would be to limit peoples ability to take out loans for college, so that college has to deal with a consumer base with less capability to pay their extremely high prices. You are not going to lower prices by giving away access to services.
    While restricting the number of people who can go to school would indeed prevent those people from acquiring college debt in the first place, you're also restricting them and their children to service positions for the rest of their lives.
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    A ridiculous idea that works in other developed nations.
    With many of our top HS students now going to CC to get their AA, which transfers in total to a 4-year university/college,
    I would also like to see consideration of the first year at the expensive college instead of the CC option.

    Most families I know are getting through CC without debt due to far lower tuition costs, scholarships, decent jobs and living at home .
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    I thought you supported vouchers for this sort of thing .

    Quote Originally Posted by LZRD WZRD View Post
    "Free" my ass
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I thought you supported vouchers for this sort of thing .
    I do, but those don't cost additional money. In fact, privatizing education and spending money on vouchers is less expensive than paying for public education. You may recall the statistic I supplied showing about a $4,000 difference between public and private schools cost per student.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Breaking News fresh off the presses! Not really sure how all this will work. I guess when it fails in the Congress he'll blame the Republicans...

    Obama: President Proposes 2 Free Years of Community College

    Does anyone have any thoughts as to how this can actually work?

    Because I'm not liking this idea:
    LOL where is the money going to come from? ol yea I know higher taxes.

    There is no way that the republican congress will take this up.

    I can already give you the Huffpo, MediaMatters and dailykos headlines.

    Republicans refuse to let kids go to college.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Yes I do, he has know clue how to negotiate anything.
    He has not demonstrated much negotiation skill to this point, I agree with that. However, he really hasn't had to until now, either.

    I just think it's pretty obvious that he's trying to set the Republicans up by proposing things like this. If they dismiss it without consideration he'll chastise them and the media will follow suit. I don't like it and it isn't at all fair but that's the way it is. It's a pretty transparent strategy to continue the "obstructionist" narrative that they've been pushing for the past 5 years, IMO.

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