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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Actually, it's not free education that undervalues degrees, but the sheer number of people who hold those degrees. But yes, something needs to be done to curb costs. Even people in my generation who have it significantly better than the current generation of college graduates are still paying off their school loans. When I hear of what current students owe I just see a lifetime of bonded labor.
    There are plenty of examples of markets that overtime drove themselves out of the marketplace by raising their prices too high. I don't see why people insist on thinking a market that has driven itself to the brink should be saved. Why not look for other solutions?

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Oh, and just offering the service for free or taking over the industry is a pretty brainless solution. Just sayin'.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    You really don't believe that he's just going to sign a clean bill for something like the Keystone pipeline without getting something he wants, do you?
    Yes I do, he has know clue how to negotiate anything.
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D) tried doing just that, the Republicans blocked it:

    GOP blocks Warren
    I think when it comes to student loans and education the Republicans are usually wrong. It seems many of them think those with debt were "irresponsible borrowers" and many haven't been in graduate education for years, back when they all went to law school tuition wasn't as outrageous. Some are proponents of "work your way through school" which simply isn't possible for graduate programs and increasingly difficult for undergrad ones as well. They don't realize that in today's day and age it's not uncommon for graduate programs to charge 40k+ for tuition on top of living expenses for which loans are basically the only option to pay for that.
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    It would be political suicide for the GOP oppose this idea. The can fight over how it is funded, but if they kill it, President Hillary Clinton and her majority in the House will make it happen. This thing should sail through with bipartisan support. The GOP won't want this as a wedge issue in 2016. It will kill them.
    Lol.....


    " President Hillary Clinton " is just a bit less ridiculous than a Majority Democrat House.

    Clintons influence in the Midterms was nada, zero, zilch.

    Opposing it isn't Political suicide, because its a ridiculous idea.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There are plenty of examples of markets that overtime drove themselves out of the marketplace by raising their prices too high. I don't see why people insist on thinking a market that has driven itself to the brink should be saved. Why not look for other solutions?
    Such as?

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    You really don't believe that he's just going to sign a clean bill for something
    like the Keystone pipeline without getting something he wants, do you?
    McConnell promised an open amendment process, remember?
    If he acts on amendments as he did today blaming Obama for France, we'll see no changes in DC .
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    I support this 100%, I would support it for everyone. It seems many of your ignoring the fact that its only for students who "maintain good grades".


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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Such as?
    Such as other solutions or other markets that have driven themselves to be unmarketable? How do you go about fixing the problem of cost by giving potential consumers of colleges more capability to get what they can't afford? While that might help individual consumers it should allow colleges to raise their costs even more without feeling any negative consequences of their actions. A better solution would be to limit peoples ability to take out loans for college, so that college has to deal with a consumer base with less capability to pay their extremely high prices. You are not going to lower prices by giving away access to services.
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol.....


    " President Hillary Clinton " is just a bit less ridiculous than a Majority Democrat House.

    Clintons influence in the Midterms was nada, zero, zilch.

    Opposing it isn't Political suicide, because its a ridiculous idea.
    A ridiculous idea that works in other developed nations.
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