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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    What in the world ever gave you the idea that Obama knows how to float anything? He has no clue how to do anything let alone make deals. He his as narcissistic as it comes and in no way does he know how to work with anyone. And that is is proven record. A narcissist does not change his strips.
    That's harsh.

    He is good at a few things, lying is about the top though
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    It would be political suicide for the GOP oppose this idea. The can fight over how it is funded, but if they kill it, President Hillary Clinton and her majority in the House will make it happen. This thing should sail through with bipartisan support. The GOP won't want this as a wedge issue in 2016. It will kill them.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    How about we reduce graduate loan interest rates and make efforts to cap tuition. I think people should have to invest in their education, if you hand it away for "free" it's undervalued. What they should do is ensure it's affordable for people and loans/tuition are low. Our education problem is that tuition has shot up far beyond the rate of inflation (and even economic growth) with student loan interest rates going up along with the answer to education being "throw more money into loans" with universities reacting as "there is more money available to us to charge in tuition."
    Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D) tried doing just that, the Republicans blocked it:

    GOP blocks Warren
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    It would be political suicide for the GOP oppose this idea. The can fight over how it is funded, but if they kill it, President Hillary Clinton and her majority in the House will make it happen. This thing should sail through with bipartisan support. The GOP won't want this as a wedge issue in 2016. It will kill them.
    Hopefully this is a joke post. To claim this as a make/break wedge issue is, to put it kindly, extremely naive.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    What in the world ever gave you the idea that Obama knows how to float anything? He has no clue how to do anything let alone make deals. He his as narcissistic as it comes and in no way does he know how to work with anyone. And that is is proven record. A narcissist does not change his strips.
    You really don't believe that he's just going to sign a clean bill for something like the Keystone pipeline without getting something he wants, do you?

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Hopefully this is a joke post. To claim this as a make/break wedge issue is, to put it kindly, extremely naive.
    Thinking a cheapskate conservative doesn't want his kid to go to college for free is extremely naive.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    It would be political suicide for the GOP oppose this idea. The can fight over how it is funded, but if they kill it, President Hillary Clinton and her majority in the House will make it happen. This thing should sail through with bipartisan support. The GOP won't want this as a wedge issue in 2016. It will kill them.
    I don't see this as a wedge issue.

    And I think that giving away two years of college is insane. Somebody will have to pay for those two years.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Sounds to me like Obama is willing to do a little horse trading.

    He sees the reality of the GOP controlling both houses and he knows that if he takes out his veto pen every time they send him a bill that the Democrats will feel the wrath at the polls in 2016. This smells like he's floating a deal...
    Really? Because it smells to me like he's going to have a good time arguing for nice-sounding fiscal idiocy (and a free car for every graduate!) so that Republicans have to play the less-popular role of Dad, telling you that if you can't afford it, you can't buy it.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm guessing he meant to apply themselves?

    The more modern term for "trade school" is "technical college," and a rose by any other name....

    The Associate of Applied Science is what is offered (and there are shorter certification programs too), and I don't care what any hifalutin' college grad says: The person who pulls into my driveway in August who can fix my a/c system is a god.
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    No.

    I live among similar species, we call them "socialists" and no, they have not changed solutions offered in the 65 years I've been around.
    I've just come to notice that people like Obama seem to have two basic ideas. Either they find something unacceptable and force people to act to resolve it or they find something unable and they create it into a freebie. What amazes me is that people think liberals/socialists/democrats are the smartest and most caring people around when in reality they have the ethics and the brain power of a chimp.

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