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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

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    Really? Love sucks? Friendships suck? Breathing sucks? Learning something sucks? Or do you not believe that people learn every single day of their lives even beyond schools?
    Whoosh.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You're right. I do find contempt in the "me" complex. It is deserving of such.
    Then I suppose you realize that demanding stuff for free is an expression of the me complex.
    Last edited by Henrin; 01-09-15 at 02:26 AM. Reason: *demanding

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

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    It could. Depends on the relationship.

    It could. Depends on who your friends are.

    It could. Depends on the air you are breathing.

    It could. Depends on the learning environment.

    Then why bring up the idea of free 2 year community college education at all? Just let their life experiences guide them to prosperity.
    1: You can do "what if's" all day long. You know what I mean so don't pretend that you don't. Highest form of dishonesty is to pretend ignorance to try and push a stupid agenda.

    2: If life experience alone was enough then we wouldn't need schools at all huh?
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Whoosh.
    Nope, just an argument that people don't want to admit is true.

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    Then I suppose you realize that depending stuff for free is an expression of the me complex.
    You might have to clarify this. But honestly you don't need to. I know that I'm in the minority here and nothing that I'm going to say will convince anyone here to put aside the "me" values that is so intertwined in today's society. I'm done with this thread.
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    1: You can do "what if's" all day long. You know what I mean so don't pretend that you don't. Highest form of dishonesty is to pretend ignorance to try and push a stupid agenda.
    Not one is playing a what if game. My responses of mere real life examples, and its from the experience of someone who is a single, lonely person who is living in a highly polluted city with a top notch education. Obviously, there are certain things that do not require money, because they are conditional to our nature, such as friends and breathing.

    Education, on the other hand, is not a product of your nature, and it's a byproduct of the quality on puts into it. After all, we don't want people learning that the earth is flat, and people never landed on the moon. People just don't simple education. They need good education. That is already severely lacking in the secondary school level, and students are not going to recieve it at the community college level.

    2: If life experience alone was enough then we wouldn't need schools at all huh?
    That is what you are implying...

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Nope, just an argument that people don't want to admit is true.


    You might have to clarify this. But honestly you don't need to. I know that I'm in the minority here and nothing that I'm going to say will convince anyone here to put aside the "me" values that is so intertwined in today's society. I'm done with this thread.
    Argh...I wish you quoted me after the edit. Anyway, people desiring things for free at other peoples expense are just as selfish as those that refuse to help anyone.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Nope, just an argument that people don't want to admit is true.
    I'm pretty sure that things from nature being free has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of free things in the marketplace.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Argh...I wish you quoted me after the edit. Anyway, people desiring things for free at other peoples expense are just as selfish as those that refuse to help anyone.
    I'm responding due to this post and your edit otherwise I wouldn't have. I figured it was only fair.

    To your post: Except that having free education isn't about one person or even a small group of people with in society. It's about the benefits for the whole of society.

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    I'm pretty sure that things from nature being free has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of free things in the marketplace.
    Friendship has nothing to do with nature. It is a human societal concept. And love also isn't found in nature, sexual instincts are, but not love.
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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I'm responding due to this post and your edit otherwise I wouldn't have. I figured it was only fair.

    To your post: Except that having free education isn't about one person or even a small group of people with in society. It's about the benefits for the whole of society.
    Providing someone an education is a service for the direct benefit of the individual receiving the education. There is of course secondary benefits to providing people with an education that relates to society, but that is purpose of it.


    Friendship has nothing to do with nature. It is a human societal concept. And love also isn't found in nature, sexual instincts are, but not love.
    Of course it has something to do with nature. It's in our nature to form friendships and love is a feeling and like all feelings is natural.

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    Re: Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

    I don't know that 2 years of free community college is the answer, but college tuition is an enormous problem in our society. The cost of tuition has risen sooooo much that to the younger generations, it's become a matter of risking your entire life being ruined for something you're told you have to do. That's a lousy choice to have to make, and it's not a choice that the older generations had to make.

    When you're hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt and your credit is in danger of being ruined, things like internships and taking time to look for the right job become impossible. You have to take whatever job you can get in order to pay the bills, and it creates unproductive members of society which is in turn bad for everybody. I went to a private college for one semester before dropping out and choosing technical college instead (because it was within my means) so I'm not trying to elicit sympathy with my sob story here. I'm just pointing out that railing against free or discounted education are maybe being a bit irrational. Insisting that education remains absurdly expensive is what's really irrational -- and just plain stupid.
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