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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Huh? Perverts, filthy, pedophiles, animal ****ers? Those are terms of endearment and acceptance? How about wops, paddies, chinks, niggers, kikes, lazy, drunks, smelly and cunning? How about mackerel snappers, papists and sand niggers?
    Not.
    Discrimination is action that denies social participation or human rights to categories of people based on prejudice. This includes treatment of an individual or group based on their actual or perceived membership in a certain group or social category, "in a way that is worse than the way people are usually treated".

    There's no evidence he ever actually discriminated against anyone or group in his tenor.
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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's actually irrelevant. On or off the clock he will have made his feelings clear and, should there actually have been any gay firemen in the department, will have created a hostile work environment.
    The Chief said he only gave the book to those who he had established a Christian relationship with.

    Because the book had been published, it was available to anyone who wanted to read it. They created their own hostile environment by citing a book that could have just as well been the Bible.
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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The Chief said he only gave the book to those who he had established a Christian relationship with.

    Because the book had been published, it was available to anyone who wanted to read it. They created their own hostile environment by citing a book that could have just as well been the Bible.
    You are giving high praise for a book you never read.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Not.
    Discrimination is action that denies social participation or human rights to categories of people based on prejudice. This includes treatment of an individual or group based on their actual or perceived membership in a certain group or social category, "in a way that is worse than the way people are usually treated".

    There's no evidence he ever actually discriminated against anyone or group in his tenor.
    I assume you mean during his tenure unless he was singing for a living.

    But to your point, here is my struggle as well. I would like to see evidence that he was discriminating against gays. If he was, he should be punished for that. Not liking their lifestyle to me doesn't qualify for a reason to fire him if that's what this was all about.
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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I would have discussed it with the company's HR person, have it on the record.
    I am pretty sure the HR person would have said that there were way too many "mights" and "coulds", and not enough "dids".

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    You are giving high praise for a book you never read.
    He quoted scripture in the book.
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
    Matt. 10:32-33

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    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
    Matt. 10:32-33

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    He quoted scripture in the book.
    Christopher Hitchens quotes scripture in his books, does he deserve the same praise?

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    I am pretty sure the HR person would have said that there were way too many "mights" and "coulds", and not enough "dids".
    Yes, those things tend to need to form a pattern when there isnt a direct observation.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I assume you mean during his tenure unless he was singing for a living.

    But to your point, here is my struggle as well. I would like to see evidence that he was discriminating against gays. If he was, he should be punished for that. Not liking their lifestyle to me doesn't qualify for a reason to fire him if that's what this was all about.
    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Christopher Hitchens quotes scripture in his books, does he deserve the same praise?
    I was only comparing sources of angst for sinners not raisng his book to that of the Bible. So you can let it go now .
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
    Matt. 10:32-33

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