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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

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    I wonder how people would feel if this same person was distributing satanic or kkk pamphlets. Would they still cry first amendment?
    if they did thier cries would still be wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    They have ruled before...."The right to believe is absolute the right to act is not absolute"
    They have ruled that just because you work in a public sector or enter a public sector you don't lose your constitutional rights.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    They have ruled that just because you work in a public sector or enter a public sector you don't lose your constitutional rights.
    You can sign away those rights as a condition of employment at any work place. Almost all of us are subject to HR policies at the work place. For example its within my constitutional rights to tell my coworker she has nice tits, but I will still get fired and rightly so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I don't think his life should be ruined because he made an ill-advised choice. I'm sure he's a good person and probably a good fire chief. A simple reprimand should have sufficed. Not everything needs to be taken to such extremes.
    LOL you forget who you are talking about. we are talking about extremists. who think if you don't believe the way that they do you should be fired, and some go as far as thinking you should die.

    they are not reasonable people nor are they the tolerant people that they claim to be.

    no he shouldn't have been fired. having an opposite opinions not cause to be fired. the city violated at least 1 constitutional amendment and the fact he was expressing his religious views they violated a restricted class as well so this has the making of a discrimination case.

    Heck they got a CEO fired as well because he donated his own personal money to a cause that he believed in.
    yet all they want is equal rights. no they want more than equal rights they want thought police.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    You can sign away those rights as a condition of employment at any work place. Almost all of us are subject to HR policies at the work place. For example its within my constitutional rights to tell my coworker she has nice tits, but I will still get fired and rightly so.
    you can never sign away your constitutional rights.
    sexual harassment is a federal law. you broke a federal law.

    the guy didn't break any federal laws.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you can never sign away your constitutional rights.
    sexual harassment is a federal law. you broke a federal law.

    the guy didn't break any federal laws.
    Odd, I've seen multiple people get in trouble for violating things like nondisclosure agreements (first amendment), government secrets clearance (first amendment), posting signs for local things like bake sales in an employee breakroom (first amendment).

    It seems the courts would disagree with you.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you can never sign away your constitutional rights.
    sexual harassment is a federal law. you broke a federal law.

    the guy didn't break any federal laws.
    Wrong, you can sign agreements all day long that compel you to act with a level of discretion and reserve that an agreement may stipulate. You can sign an agreement saying you cannot take a weapon to the workplace, not bring a bible to the workplace, not browse the internet for anything you wish, and not engage in any activity that puts the business in jeopardy. You can do that all day long, and all of which means being intelligent with your rights and abiding by said agreements. And a little hint, if you voluntarily signed the agreement then the organization enforcing the agreement is *still* not infringing upon your rights.
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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They're out to get you.
    They succeeded in getting the chief.

    Better not state your religious beliefs in public or they'll come after you.
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    They succeeded in getting the chief.

    Better not state your religious beliefs in public or they'll come after you.
    Its all part of the secret muslim gay kennesaw plot I tell's ya!

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/us...iews.html?_r=0

    ATLANTA — Mayor Kasim Reed announced Tuesday that he had fired the chief of the city’s Fire Rescue Department, Kelvin Cochran, after Mr. Cochran gave workers a religious book he wrote containing passages that condemn homosexuality.

    Mr. Reed had suspended Mr. Cochran for a month without pay in November, opening an investigation into whether Mr. Cochran’s authorship and distribution of the book to workers violated the city’s nondiscrimination policies. That move sparked a debate about religious liberty and freedom of expression: Last month, the 1.4-million member Georgia Baptist Convention began an online petition that called for Mr. Cochran’s reinstatement and suggested his First Amendment rights had been violated.

    The matter also presents a challenge for Mr. Reed, a second-term Democrat who presides over a metropolis whose social mosaic is defined by strong expressions of Christianity and large and politically powerful gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual groups.

    snip...

    Homosexual Agenda strikes again
    Too many gays are setting their beds on fire.

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