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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Agreeing that someone should be fired from his job for expressing beliefs that you find disagreeable certainly constitutes intolerance.
    Why do you keep lying about what people are saying?

    He wasn't fired for "expressing beliefs." He was fired for pushing hateful religious beliefs onto subordinates under cover of authority.

    If you are my employee, do you really think you have the right to push your religious books onto subordinates on company time? Are you really telling me you think the first amendment covers that?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Nevertheless, he is a citizen of the United States, and therefore, every bit as entitled to his rights under the First Amendment as every other citizen. Nothing in the First Amendment allows the rights that it affirms to be denied as a condition of working for the government. Same as the rest of the Bill of Rights.
    This falls under not being able to yell fire in a crowded movie theater. There are exceptions to ALL of the First Amendment rights.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    Adultry harms the spouse that is being cheated on. Homosexuality harms no one and is only between the people who are in a relationship with each other.
    Homosexuality is degrading to those who engage in it, and to the society that embraces it. To think that it is any less harmful than adultery is to be deluded. All sexual immorality is harmful.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Homosexuality is degrading to those who engage in it, and to the society that embraces it. To think that it is any less harmful than adultery is to be deluded. All sexual immorality is harmful.
    See, it is your opinion that it is harmfull and that doesnt count as actual harm. You have to be able to actually show the harm.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The first amendment actually does require that the government not push religion on people.
    Only if you “interpret” it to require the exact censorship and suppression that it explicitly prohibits.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Homosexuality is degrading to those who engage in it, and to the society that embraces it. To think that it is any less harmful than adultery is to be deluded. All sexual immorality is harmful.
    It's not immoral. You are wrong.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    He wasn't fired for "expressing beliefs." He was fired for pushing hateful religious beliefs onto subordinates under cover of authority.
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    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    This falls under not being able to yell fire in a crowded movie theater. There are exceptions to ALL of the First Amendment rights.
    Really?

    The point of the classic “yelling ‘fire’ in a crowded theater” metaphor is that one is not allowed to exercise a right in a manner that creates a clear danger to others.

    What clear danger does a fire chief create by writing a book that stands for decent moral values?
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    No rebuttal, predictable. Next.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Atlanta Fire Chief: I was fired because of my Christian faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    I am not ducking anything. I am just not giving you the answer you are fishing for to try to prove some sort of point in your head. A person has to actually do something to cause a hostile work enviroment. It cant be just because the person exists. For example, handing out a book that has nothing to do with their job to their subordinates.
    if i had a good relationship with a co-worker, i would be disappointed if that friendly co-worker chose NOT to share a copy of his work with me. just as i would a musician co-worker who released a musical recording
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