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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Yeah the publishers and distributors of the Gideon Bible should be in prison.

    Ever heard of the first amendment?
    You think the right of Govt. officials to promote their religious views is in the 1st amendment? Quite the opposite.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Why should someone lose their job over that? Would you support his firing if he passed out pro-gay marriage leaflets too? Or books by Richard Dawkins? Why are liberals so intolerant?
    I'm not a liberal. The government has an obligation not to endorse any religion. It has no place in government. If you want a government that is a theocracy go join ISIS.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Homosexual Agenda strikes again

    oh no! Not the *gulp* Homosexual Agenda...... again!!


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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    If he is working for a government department he shouldn't be advocating *any* point of view while on the clock.
    Who said anyone was on the clock?
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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Who said anyone was on the clock?
    in the OP that you posted ...

    ATLANTA — Mayor Kasim Reed announced Tuesday that he had fired the chief of the city’s Fire Rescue Department, Kelvin Cochran, after Mr. Cochran gave workers a religious book he wrote containing passages that condemn homosexuality.
    so your contention is that he didnt do this on the clock or used his managerial influence to help convince workers to take his book?
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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    No one was forcing anything. [except the homosexual lobby]
    Mr. Cochran gave workers a religious book he wrote containing passages that condemn homosexuality.
    So which books were being passed out by the "homosexual lobby"?

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    oh no! Not the *gulp* Homosexual Agenda...... again!!


    Yep, now they getting people fired for their personal and religious views.

    Cochran also served as U.S. Fire Administrator under President Obama from 2009-10.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by blaxshep View Post
    So which books were being passed out by the "homosexual lobby"?
    It was old videos of the 1980s show "my two dads"

    Those homosexuals really need to step up their game!

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/us...iews.html?_r=0

    ATLANTA — Mayor Kasim Reed announced Tuesday that he had fired the chief of the city’s Fire Rescue Department, Kelvin Cochran, after Mr. Cochran gave workers a religious book he wrote containing passages that condemn homosexuality.

    Mr. Reed had suspended Mr. Cochran for a month without pay in November, opening an investigation into whether Mr. Cochran’s authorship and distribution of the book to workers violated the city’s nondiscrimination policies. That move sparked a debate about religious liberty and freedom of expression: Last month, the 1.4-million member Georgia Baptist Convention began an online petition that called for Mr. Cochran’s reinstatement and suggested his First Amendment rights had been violated.

    The matter also presents a challenge for Mr. Reed, a second-term Democrat who presides over a metropolis whose social mosaic is defined by strong expressions of Christianity and large and politically powerful gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual groups.

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    Homosexual Agenda strikes again
    Not quite. It was not the homosexual agenda that took him down, it was his own idea that he could write such a book and have no consequences as an employee of the city that took him down. Cochran's 1st Amendment rights were not violated nor was he subjected to discrimination. He was an employee of the city and subject to employment policies of the city. Writing the book would put any mayor into a rough position of being between various Christian Groups who want to see more books like this vs. the LGBT groups just waiting for the next one written. And I am willing to bet there is an ethics clause of some sort in that agreement with the city. Cochran should have known better no matter what he claims he got approved by whoever he claims he went to, and it is rather naive on his part to assume this would not have caused a backlash.

    The good news is he is no longer an employee of the city. And can write all the anti-gay literature he would like, still not having his 1st Amendment rights violated.
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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    He wasn't selling them. People weren't forced to take them.
    Govt. officials promoting religious views violates the separation of church and state. Why is that so difficult for you? You want a theocracy?
    What if he was a Muslim handing out Jihad pamphlets? Still OK with you?

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