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    Re: Atlanta Fire Chief: I was fired because of my Christian faith

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    You avoided the question. Do you believe the Muslim Police Commissioner has the same right to spread his hate speech among his employees as the Christian Fire Chief?
    Of course he does, just as you have the right to characterize the expression of opinions and beliefs with which you disagree as “spread[ing] his hate speech”. Of course, I equally have the right to call you out for the idiocy and dishonesty that you display by so doing; especially if you also claim to be “tolerant”.
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    Re: Atlanta Fire Chief: I was fired because of my Christian faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Of course he does, just as you have the right to characterize the expression of opinions and beliefs with which you disagree as “spread[ing] his hate speech”. Of course, I equally have the right to call you out for the idiocy and dishonesty that you display by so doing; especially if you also claim to be “tolerant”.
    isn't funny some of the most intolerant people I know of claim the title of tolerance. I don't think they understand what the word means.

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    Re: Atlanta Fire Chief: I was fired because of my Christian faith

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    But while we're at it, I am very much interested in how you broad stroke the entire LGBT community as evil and vile. Do Gay Firemen and women go to hell for simply being gay, or do they get a free pass because they are willing to put their asses on the line to save people regardless of their skin, creed, religious belieffs [sic], etc?
    Homosexual behavior is immoral. There is nothing wrong or inappropriate about calling it out for what it is, nor about calling out those sick perverts who practice it for what they are.
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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    If disagreeing with someone and saying so makes you intolerant, I guess there's a lot of intolerant people on this site. You included if that's your definition.
    At least I do not claim “tolerance” among my virtues, so I am not a hypocrite when I fail to practice it.
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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Firing him for expressing his religious views violates the constitution. the government can't do it. it also violates his freedom of speech.
    he has a major lawsuit if he chooses to push it.

    PS no one said he was on the clock. he could have been off the clock.
    as the SCOTUS has ruled just because you enter a public domain doesn't not mean you give up your 1st amendment rights. they have ruled on this time and time and time again.
    Indeed, think of what it would mean if politicians were not allowed to freely hold, and express what beliefs they will, and to act in their duties according to their beliefs? The entire process of lawmaking really depends on the ability of lawmakers to discuss and debate their opinions freely, and to author and vote on legislation in accordance therewith.
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    Re: Atlanta Fire Chief: I was fired because of my Christian faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    If there was a fire chief who was a homosexual pervert, would you agree that having such a leader would similarly impose a hostile environment on any underlings who happened to adhere to any kind of moral standards, to the degree that their discomfort would constitute a legitimate reason for firing that leader?
    If he tried to impose his lifestyle or beliefs on his subordinates, then he - like the actual fire chief - should be fired. It's NOT a matter of PC - it's a matter of leadership, of how well the leader grasps just how his or her actions even off duty affect subordinates.
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    Re: Atlanta Fire Chief: I was fired because of my Christian faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Of course he does, just as you have the right to characterize the expression of opinions and beliefs with which you disagree as “spread[ing] his hate speech”. Of course, I equally have the right to call you out for the idiocy and dishonesty that you display by so doing; especially if you also claim to be “tolerant”.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Homosexual behavior is immoral. There is nothing wrong or inappropriate about calling it out for what it is, nor about calling out those sick perverts who practice it for what they are.
    So in the one instance you call me intolerant and then you go around and condemn homosexual firefighters not for quality of their character but for the characters they love? Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    No. Adulterers have not been granted the official stamp of protected political victim class. No one cares if they are discriminated against.
    One has to ask, why not? Adultery is not any more or less immoral than homosexuality. Why should one be treated differently than the other?
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    Re: Atlanta Fire Chief: I was fired because of my Christian faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    You seem to be ducking the question.

    The matter involves a decent man, of good morals, who wrote a book upholding these morals. The claim is that because there may be some sick perverts working under him, who may find it uncomfortable to work under a leader that they know believes in decent morals, that this is an excuse to fire that leader. The claim to which I was responding wasn't even based on that decent leader treating perverts any differently than other underlings; just the fact that these sick perverts might be uncomfortable working under a leader who upheld the morality that they reject.

    So, I am asking; if the fire chief was a sick homosexual pervert, would any decent, moral people working under him have similar cause to feel uncomfortable, and would their discomfort be just cause to fire him?

    Or does the privilege of having such consideration given to one's “discomfort” only apply to evil people being uncomfortable with working under good people; and not with good people working under evil people?
    I am not ducking anything. I am just not giving you the answer you are fishing for to try to prove some sort of point in your head. A person has to actually do something to cause a hostile work enviroment. It cant be just because the person exists. For example, handing out a book that has nothing to do with their job to their subordinates.

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    Re: Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    One has to ask, why not? Adultery is not any more or less immoral than homosexuality. Why should one be treated differently than the other?
    Adultery is a complete aside from Homosexuality. Quit trying to compare the two.

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