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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

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I see, so you know-as a non-muslim American leftist-what islam really is-but he does not.

The pearls you drop are something to behold.

That's a nice way to twist my words into something I never said, but I expect only dishonesty from you.
 
Sorry, I misspelled it....Taqiyya


"Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."

There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them."

A brief trip to Wiki corrects the misrepresentation above. The sole lie permitted is to deny your faith. (in the case of Taquiyya, to deny your Shia faith to Sunnis under fear of death if you admit it.)
 
It is a hate Islam site.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/about/
Islam is NOT a religion of peace, nor does Islam mean peace. Islam means submission.
Most people are simply unaware that Islam is NOT just another religion but a totalitarian political cult-like ideology, which compels its followers into blind obedience, teaches intolerance, brutality and locks all Muslims and non-Muslims in a struggle deriving directly from the 7th century nomadic, predatory, Bedouin culture.
Islam means “submission” to the will of Allah and the teachings as depicted in the Qur’an which include jihad – the genocidal slaughter of infidels by the sword, killing by beheading, intolerance of other religions, as well as forcing submission to Islam. The ultimate goal of jihad is the domination of Islam over the entire world.
Hate, like prejudice or 'racism', has now become the Islamic apologists to truth.

If you can find anything false being said about Islam you can easily find rebuttal, or if you discover anything positive about this religion you can share that with other posters as well. Denial doesn't move the debate forward, nor does accusations.
 
You are referring to man Choudry?
And he is an idiot.

What about the Ayatollah Khomeini? He was very influential in Islamic circles and in fact was wildly popular in Iran when he took over from the dreaded Shah. Even Western Leftists were crazy about this guy and figured he would be a huge improvement over what went previous.

Here are a few of his musings which, though highly educational and insightful, has not received the coverage from the MSM they may have deserved. The Shagged Sheep :: SteynOnline
 
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They do have a loose reverence for Mufti's, and Mullah's, as well as Qadi's, plus there are theological schools for them just as with Christian religions....But, you are correct in that they do not have the same structure that Christianity does, which IMO is what allows radicals like what we see today....So, pretty convenient isn't it?
It's very convenient. No matter what they say or do they can claim it is not the 'real' Islam, though being rather unspecific about what the 'real' Islam is. All anyone in the West can tell is that it is strongly identified with the Third World poverty, misogynistic tendencies and suspicion of any non-Islamic education.

It certainly lacks the confidence of other religions strong enough to accept criticism without resorting to murdering anyone who insults their faith.
 
Hate, like prejudice or 'racism', has now become the Islamic apologists to truth.

If you can find anything false being said about Islam you can easily find rebuttal, or if you discover anything positive about this religion you can share that with other posters as well. Denial doesn't move the debate forward, nor does accusations.

You call it what ever makes your conscience rest.
As will I.
 
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Practising Muslim Reformer Irshad Manji
("reformer" means 'apostate' to many/most Muslims and she is a pariah who lives behind Bullett-proof glass)

"..The trouble with Islam today is that Literalism is Mainstream.

Even Moderate Muslims take the Koran as the final word of God: unfiltered, unchanged and unchangeable.
This supremacy complex inhibits us from asking hard questions about what happens when faith becomes dogma.
Such a path can lead only to a dead end of more violence...."
 
You call it what ever makes your conscience rest. As will I.
My conscience is clear because I try to tell the truth and never intend to misrepresent. You charge other people with having "Hate" without ever asking them if this is so. It's dishonest.
 
My conscience is clear because I try to tell the truth and never intend to misrepresent. You charge other people with having "Hate" without ever asking them if this is so. It's dishonest.

I stated they were hate sites.
 
I stated they were hate sites.
Yes, I know. But you have demonstrated nothing. Just calling them 'hate sites' doesn't make it so. What, for example, do they hate? Anything specific you can point to or is this an all purpose generalization of yours?
 
Yes, I know. But you have demonstrated nothing. Just calling them 'hate sites' doesn't make it so. What, for example, do they hate? Anything specific you can point to or is this an all purpose generalization of yours?
What do they hate, go for it, the site is open.
 
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"Who pushes multiculturalism and plays down assimilation? Liberals. Not Conservatives. How do the Islamofascists get into the western nations? Liberals have opened the floodgates and continue to lie about the dangers. Islamofascists are authoritarian-theological statists. They do not support individual rights nor individual liberties. You are fundamentally wrong.

You think liberals are the blame to terrorists because they praise multiculturalism? I read Fox News... I listen to Rush Limbaugh on occassion, you know, so that I can see what the other side is saying and try to empathize with them...

But I don't think you can predict this kind of crazy ****. You guys come up with new crazy, **** every other week. It's insane.
There were some "avoided" questions in my post:

1) Who pushes multiculturalism and plays down assimilation? Liberals. Not Conservatives.
2) How do the Islamofascists get into the western nations? Liberals have opened the floodgates and continue to lie about the dangers. Islamofascists are authoritarian-theological statists. They do not support individual rights nor individual liberties. You are fundamentally wrong.

Do you agree with my answers?
 
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"Who pushes multiculturalism and plays down assimilation? Liberals. Not Conservatives. How do the Islamofascists get into the western nations? Liberals have opened the floodgates and continue to lie about the dangers. Islamofascists are authoritarian-theological statists. They do not support individual rights nor individual liberties. You are fundamentally wrong.


There were some "avoided" questions in my post:

1) Who pushes multiculturalism and plays down assimilation? Liberals. Not Conservatives.
2) How do the Islamofascists get into the western nations? Liberals have opened the floodgates and continue to lie about the dangers. Islamofascists are authoritarian-theological statists. They do not support individual rights nor individual liberties. You are fundamentally wrong.

Do you agree with my answers?

Yes, I agree that liberals praise multiculturalism. Yes I agree that liberals tend to be okay with immigration.

The assumption based off of those two "answers" is a non sequitur.
 
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Yes, I agree that liberals praise multiculturalism. Yes I agree that liberals tend to be okay with immigration.

Everything else is a non sequitur.

This tells me where the problem lies. Liberalism is the great destroyer of nations.
 
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This tells me where the problem lies. Liberalism is the great destroyer of nations.

Mmk. As a nation, I'd be glad if you and your state left the union and left us liberals to destroy it on our own. Good luck in your state that is probably in the top 5 worst states in the country.
 
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On some news, there are rumors that the police officer investigating Charlie hedbo massacre, had commited suicide. o_O
 
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Im glad to speak with an albanian. But lets not pretend there isn't solidarity here (even if not from the American president).

Good point....Where the HELL was Obama yesterday in the march with nearly all of the major countries leaders? What the hell is it about this President that he can't stand with our allies?
 
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These cops were lucky didn't killed each others. (only wounded each others lol)

 
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Good point....Where the HELL was Obama yesterday in the march with nearly all of the major countries leaders? What the hell is it about this President that he can't stand with our allies?

Do you know what his motorcade does to traffic? I am sure it was a security issue. He should have sent someone more high profile though.
 
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Do you know what his motorcade does to traffic? I am sure it was a security issue. He should have sent someone more high profile though.
Why is Obama the only one who needs a motorcade?
 
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