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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

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Well we will now, and it will not be one you will win...

That discussion won't go well on boards like this that are filled with generally reasonable people. What's that website... stormfront? Try that place.
 
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As much as I don't like to say so, we might have to. We may have no choice in the matter.

Israel had to do something similar, and, if I recall, they were there like 20 years before the time was right to pull out.


South Lebanon conflict (1985

Well, OK. 15 years.

But realistically, the right time to pull out is far more determined by the realities of the situation on the ground, rather than some arbitrary timeline thunk up and invented some other place which ignores the realities of the situation on the ground.

Our troops on their "holy" ground is their best recruiting tool. It's a conundrum.
 
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We sure didn't win the war, that's for sure. But we started it, and blood is on our hands.
The left is soooooooo easy to propagandize, even when it's against their own democracy and from dictatorships. It's a marvel of the ages!
 
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You know that in a typical year, its estimated 50,000 cars are burned by muslims in france a year. We are seeing back into the middle ages.

I would expect that nonsense on other boards, groups in particular.
Your agenda is clearly Muslims are the enemy, all of them ? Would that be a reasonable conclusion?
 
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I would expect that nonsense on other boards, groups in particular.
Your agenda is clearly Muslims are the enemy, all of them ? Would that be a reasonable conclusion?

Does it still have to mentioned, ad nauseum, that 'not all Muslims are terrorists'? Can't that yet be a given???
 
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Firstly you are assuming- just because someone does not reply does not equate to agreement. Quite the stretch.
Perhaps they assume discussing this point with you may be futile?
Where did I state coincidence- Not once. You are attempting to blame all car burnings on Muslims- Fail
Then you state location- poor districts- with substantial Muslim population- K, some would be from that demographic burning cars.
This discussion started when I asked for proof and got this, not from you but another post in the thread that started this discussion.

In Diverse France, New Years Means Hundreds of Burned Cars | VDARE.COM Of course, diverse (mostly Muslim) car-b-cues don’t occur only on New Years. That would be too limiting to Allah’s anarchists. When Muslims get a tiny bit miffed in France, they think arson and other violence.
The Islamization of France in 2014 Car burnings, commonplace across France, are often attributed to rival Muslim gangs that compete with each other for the media spotlight over who can cause the most destruction. An estimated 40,000 cars are burned in France every year. http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/...d-by-muslim-thugs-on-new-years-eve-this-time/
Even Goebbels mixed some truth with lies, and he was a master.
Last- I have to work on multi quotes.
1. I did not Use ANY of those sources.
They are Right Wing, if CORRECT. (and will say what MSM won't)
A-FRIGGING-GAIN
Here was my original post (along with TIME.COM I'm not quoting)

me said:
"40,000" is NO exaggeration, if anything it's LOW.

Of course, you can read many/most MSM dailies without the word 'Muslim' even being mentioned.
It's like Muslim immigrants, ie, quadruple in Scandinavia, and Rapes quadruple..

but they Don't keep stats on their failed immigration policy, so you're a "bigot" for suggesting the obvious and challenged to produce stats the govt is too PC to keep. Catch 22
Much of Europe is like this.

ie, in the UK it's "Asians" when they really mean 'Muslim Pakistanis'. ('grooming' etc)
Other places (ie, France) it's 'disadvantaged youths' who may just happen to be in the same cities/Muslim burbs the cars are torched in.
2. THEN, I posted the Districts that had the Highest Burnings (Le Figaro), and they were, Of Course, Highest Muslim population ones.

Any REASONABLE Person gets it.
What you did/are doing was/is DISINGENUOUSLY asking for "proof" when Logic was all that is available, since the govt doesn't keep stats.
EVERYONE gets it.
But you DISINGENUOSLY/FALLACIOUSLY ask for "Proof."
There is NO "Proof" for Gravity or Evolution Either, just Great Circumstantial cases that Keep happening.. as here.

3. If you don't think it's a "Coincidence", Then you DO HAVE to acknowledge it is in good part
Muslims.

No one EVER Said [Juvenile Strawman] "all".

4. It's Not exactly a secret in any case, it's common knowledge.

Your debate is Not sincere, not rational.
Just continued busted-ego attempts to shift the Burden while posting NO data or logic of your own
WHIFF.
 
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That discussion won't go well on boards like this that are filled with generally reasonable people. What's that website... stormfront? Try that place.

Tell that to the people of Europe...They say and will vote other wise...
 
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Our troops on their "holy" ground is their best recruiting tool. It's a conundrum.

Smoke them out and induce them into a fight they can't win sounds like a winning strategy to me.
I figure that eventually they'll run out of people.

It should be noted that it's the Islamic fundamentalists which picked this conflict.
They chose to start this conflict.
They deliberately planned to start this conflict.
They continued their attacks until the Western powers reacted which started this conflict.
It was they which attacked Western interests a great multiple of times to start this conflict.
They wouldn't have stopped or be satisfied until this conflict became fully engaged.

All this was well before there was any sort of reaction or violation of their 'holy' ground, so umm, no. I'm not buying that.

They may very well use this conflict as a calls to arms, but is there a single group throughout history which hasn't?
 
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Tell that to the people of Europe...They say and will vote other wise...

Wait, am I talking to War Machine right now? I just noticed you're from Las Vegas. LOL

And no, I don't think many people in Europe or any civilized Western society agree with you. About anything.
 
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I don't care. It has to be one of the most asinine comparisons ever. It's a comparison of a very specific group doing a very specific thing (moms killing the kids by drowning) to a very general group doing a very general thing (Muslims killing). Let's continue:

I bet more people have been bitten by ants than stung in the left ear by male yellow jackets.
I bet more people have been killed by white men than stabbed in the asshole by a left-handed black guy.

Who gives a flying ****?

Where, here's a little hint so you don't work yourself up into a lather......... ignore the posts you think are irrelevant.

:roll:
 
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Where, here's a little hint so you don't work yourself up into a lather......... ignore the posts you think are irrelevant.

:roll:

I'm not going to ignore posts that are attempting to slander a large portion of the world out of ignorance. Muslims != Extremist Terrorists. These terrorists are no more Muslim than the assholes in Northern Ireland are Christian. They are extremist, psychotic, assholes who would find another excuse to blow people up if religion wasn't available.
 
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Does it still have to mentioned, ad nauseum, that 'not all Muslims are terrorists'? Can't that yet be a given???

Sadly, not for some.
 
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I'm not going to ignore posts that are attempting to slander a large portion of the world out of ignorance. Muslims != Extremist Terrorists. These terrorists are no more Muslim than the assholes in Northern Ireland are Christian. They are extremist, psychotic, assholes who would find another excuse to blow people up if religion wasn't available.

Really??? Here's a little job for you. Point out where I claimed all Muslims are terrorists or extremist terrorists, or any other derogatory claim.

I'll wait for your apology.
 
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Smoke them out and induce them into a fight they can't win sounds like a winning strategy to me.
I figure that eventually they'll run out of people.

It should be noted that it's the Islamic fundamentalists which picked this conflict.
They chose to start this conflict.
They deliberately planned to start this conflict.
They continued their attacks until the Western powers reacted which started this conflict.
It was they which attacked Western interests a great multiple of times to start this conflict.
They wouldn't have stopped or be satisfied until this conflict became fully engaged.

All this was well before there was any sort of reaction or violation of their 'holy' ground, so umm, no. I'm not buying that.

They may very well use this conflict as a calls to arms, but is there a single group throughout history which hasn't?

You are asking the impossible, to win a guerrilla war.
 
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Hell, we haven't even discussed honor killings yet... how many Christian moms drown their kids because they think Jesus said to versus Muslim fathers murdering their daughters for wearing shorts to school or other such affronts to Allah?

True. And I saw on MSNBC that a couple hundred schoolgirls were shot in the face yesterday because they dared to go to school here in the U.S.
 
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1. I did not Use ANY of those sources.
They are Right Wing, if CORRECT. (and will say what MSM won't)
A-FRIGGING-GAIN
Here was my original post (along with TIME.COM I'm not quoting)

2. THEN, I posted the Districts that had the Highest Burnings (Le Figaro), and they were, Of Course, Highest Muslim population ones.

Any REASONABLE Person gets it.
What you did/are doing was/is DISINGENUOUSLY asking for "proof" when Logic was all that is available, since the govt doesn't keep stats.
EVERYONE gets it.
But you DISINGENUOSLY/FALLACIOUSLY ask for "Proof."
There is NO "Proof" for Gravity or Evolution Either, just Great Circumstantial cases that Keep happening.. as here.

3. It's Not exactly a secret in any case, it's common knowledge.

Your debate is Not sincere, not rational.
Just continued busted-ego attempts to shift the Burden while posting NO data or logic of your own
WHIFF.

You jumped on my reply to USConservative. I at no time disputed the numbers of car burning. I do dispute laying all car burning at the feet of Muslims.

QUOTE=JANFU;1064173634]Non biased news links please. With accurate numbers.

Credible links- captions from the links a I am not running thru a field of filth and hatred.[/QUOTE]

Do you lay the all the car burnings at the feet of Muslims?
 
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Smoke them out and induce them into a fight they can't win sounds like a winning strategy to me.
I figure that eventually they'll run out of people.

It should be noted that it's the Islamic fundamentalists which picked this conflict.
They chose to start this conflict.
They deliberately planned to start this conflict.
They continued their attacks until the Western powers reacted which started this conflict.
It was they which attacked Western interests a great multiple of times to start this conflict.
They wouldn't have stopped or be satisfied until this conflict became fully engaged.

All this was well before there was any sort of reaction or violation of their 'holy' ground, so umm, no. I'm not buying that.

They may very well use this conflict as a calls to arms, but is there a single group throughout history which hasn't?

The thing that bothers me is that they destroy buildings that were built by their ancestors hundreds of years ago - destroying their own historical past to make a point? What idiots! It reminds me of protestors here that riot and burn down their own damn houses and the businesses that were there to serve them! And then complain that they have no place to live and/or shop for food and other necessities! :doh:
 
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The thing that bothers me is that they destroy buildings that were built by their ancestors hundreds of years ago - destroying their own historical past to make a point? What idiots! It reminds me of protestors here that riot and burn down their own damn houses and the businesses that were there to serve them! And then complain that they have no place to live and/or shop for food and other necessities! :doh:

Greetings Polgara! :2wave:

It's true, the fundamentalists are in fact destroying all that does not agree with them and their ideology.
An interesting parallel that you draw there. Yeah, I can see some commonalities there.
 
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The thing that bothers me is that they destroy buildings that were built by their ancestors hundreds of years ago - destroying their own historical past to make a point? What idiots! It reminds me of protestors here that riot and burn down their own damn houses and the businesses that were there to serve them! And then complain that they have no place to live and/or shop for food and other necessities! :doh:

Within Islam Sunni view Shia as heretics- ISIL looks upon all non Sunni as heretics, shrines, Shia tombs in their extreme view used for veneration are an affront to Allah.
Then you have the minority sects within Islam, they are heretics.
 
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You are asking the impossible, to win a guerrilla war.

Well, no, I wouldn't call it impossible.
Unsuccessful guerrilla campaigns

. . . .
History of guerrilla warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I wouldn't call it easy, by any means. But I wouldn't call it impossible.
 
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Don't be idiotic over the example I used. It is incredibly stupid to think that is the only example of Christians being crazy and killing innocent people.

No, it is idiotic to try and equate violence in the name of Christianity with violence in the name of Islam given the staggering prevalence of Islamic violence compared to Christian violence.
 
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Really? Dont you send them to Prison or "labor camps" in China?

How funny you are...

Fix your own Human Rights first then you tell the rest of the world how they fare.
 
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Fix your own Human Rights first then you tell the rest of the world how they fare.
Could a Singaporean advise other countries of the world on human rights? What's your experience?
 
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