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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

Re: Terror Attack In Paris

From what I've just read, car-burning is a "distinctly French" tradition that began decades ago:

The phenomenon began several decades ago in the eastern French city of Strasbourg and the region of Alsace around it, according to Stéphane Pénet, director of nonlife insurance at the Fédération Française des Sociétés d’Assurances, an industry group.

“Now the tradition has been exported to other regions of France,” he said. “It’s a stupid tradition.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/world/europe/frances-less-joyous-new-years-tradition.html?_r=0
 
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NIMBY said:
GOP Senators like Graham and McConnell now scurrilously trying to link the French massacre with Obama.
Who would have guessed?

While I did enjoy Judge Napolitano on 'The Panel' on The Special Report .
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As far as I can tell you have always had difficulty connecting the dots. Do you suppose the problem is one of nature or of nurture?
 
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I don't focus on the mentality of other posters when I post as you do, misterveritis.

What I do is post about what traitors like Graham, McConnell, Limbaugh and Bolton say on the world stage.
And I had to watch FOX to catch their acts .

Misterveritis said:
As far as I can tell you have always had difficulty connecting the dots. Do you suppose the problem is one of nature or of nurture?
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US Conservative said:
:lamo Who do you think is burning the vehicles? Try real hard.
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If you laugh your ass off when your failures are noted by others, you may be eligible for disability

Some of the violence can be explained as score-settling among rival
gangs. Others are committing insurance fraud, but the majority of
burnings can be explained as a form of open rebellion. Well-planned and
highly-anticipated, New Year’s Eve is a significant release valve for
poor suburban youths who are defying their widespread harassment and
dead-end futures.
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NIMBY said:
I don't focus on the mentality of other posters when I post as you do, misterveritis.

What I do is post about what traitors like Graham, McConnell, Limbaugh and Bolton say on the world stage.
And I had to watch FOX to catch their acts .
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And you fail to connect the dots. And that was my point. You have consistently failed to connect the dots. If it is due to genetics there is no hope. If it is because you lack training in dot connecting then you may just have a chance in the future.

Obama has turned the world to **** wherever he has gone. He undermines our allies and props up this nation's enemies. He is passive against this nation's enemies when aggressive actions are called for.

I wonder why you cannot see something so simple.
 
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US Conservative said:
This link is citing 40K
Valls "choqué" par les 40 000 voitures brûlées chaque année - Le Point
and only around 1000 on new years eve-apparently thats routine now.

The Islamization of France in 2014
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/...d-by-muslim-thugs-on-new-years-eve-this-time/
In Diverse France, New Years Means Hundreds of Burned Cars | VDARE.COM
LiveLeak.com - 1,193New years eve car torchings in France. 40,000 cars a year get burned but by who?
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Non biased news links please. With accurate numbers.

Credible links- captions from the links a I am not running thru a field of filth and hatred.
 
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US Conservative said:
:lamo Who do you think is burning the vehicles? Try real hard.
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Assuming. you do know the saying about assuming. Glad you are not on a Jury trial.
 
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I have to say that this thread is one of the most disgusting displays of hate that I have ever seen on this forum. For a country that prides itself on the the ideals of freedom and liberty, it would appear that many Americans are willing to do away with such ideals because of fear. It's incredibly disquieting to see that many people here support what would amount to an all out elimination of a faith because of some violent minority. Its been suggested that Muslims ought not be allowed into our country, force out those that are here and that it should be ok to harass and hound your neighbors because of their faith. This same type of fear and hate is what led to Japanese internment and McCarthyism, both of which can be considered amongst this countries worst mistakes.

Its easy to gains a little bit of security at the expense of someone else's liberty, but its cowardly, idiotic and goes against everything we stand for.

This is not a defense of extremists who kill in the name of Allah. We should and must root out this evil wherever it exists. But the liberties of innocent Muslims is not acceptable collateral damage for such a fight. Association does not make one culpable for the crimes of others, and its shameful to see it suggested otherwise.
 
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JANFU said:
Non biased news links please. With accurate numbers.

Credible links- captions from the links a I am not running thru a field of filth and hatred.
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"40,000" is NO exaggeration, if anything it's LOW.

Of course, you can read many/most MSM dailies without the word 'Muslim' even being mentioned.
It's like Muslim immigrants, ie, quadruple in Scandinavia, and Rapes quadruple.. but they don't keep stats on their failed immigration policy, so you're a "bigot" for suggesting the obvious and challenged to produce stats the govt is too PC to keep. Catch 22
Much of Europe is like this.
ie, in the UK it's "Asians" when they really mean 'Muslim Pakistanis'. ('grooming' etc)
Other places (ie, France) it's 'disadvantaged youths' who may just happen to be in the same cities/Muslim burbs the cars are torched in.

In any case "40,000" is NOT an exaggeration.
And note again, the word 'Muslim' is Never once mentioned.

In France, Nothing Says ‘Happy New Year’ Like a Burning Car
France's leftist government ends previous blackout on nationwide New Year's Eve car burning by revealing figures confirming the spread of France's distinctive tradition of auto arson as protest
Time.com - Bruce Crumley Jan. 03, 2013
French Car-Burning Rite Spreads | TIME.com

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More amazing, still, is the fact that the New Year’s Eve auto roast is only Part of the story. In announcing the New Year’s Eve tally on Jan. 2, Interior Minister Manuel Valls also revealed that figures provided by Fire, Police and Insurance officials indicate that somewhere between 42,000 and 60,000 automobiles are intentionally torched in France every year.
The Majority of those go up in smoke in or near the disadvantaged suburban housing projects located outside most French cities. Indeed, the rest of the world first took notice of France’s distinctive car-burning penchant during the three weeks of nationwide rioting in French housing projects in 2005, when 8,810 automobiles were incinerated by enraged youths. Yet, despite that riot-driven surge of car arson, year-end figures of around 43,000 for 2005 came in at around normal levels. Normal, that is, for flame-happy France."..."​

Yes it goes on to say 20% may be arson for cash, but not the majority.
But again, Forget New Years Eve, About 1000 cars are Torched EVERY week.
 
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STUT said:
I have to say that this thread is one of the most disgusting displays of hate that I have ever seen on this forum. For a country that prides itself on the the ideals of freedom and liberty, it would appear that many Americans are willing to do away with such ideals because of fear. It's incredibly disquieting to see that many people here support what would amount to an all out elimination of a faith because of some violent minority. Its been suggested that Muslims ought not be allowed into our country, force out those that are here and that it should be ok to harass and hound your neighbors because of their faith. This same type of fear and hate is what led to Japanese internment and McCarthyism, both of which can be considered amongst this countries worst mistakes.

Its easy to gains a little bit of security at the expense of someone else's liberty, but its cowardly, idiotic and goes against everything we stand for.

This is not a defense of extremists who kill in the name of Allah. We should and must root out this evil wherever it exists. But the liberties of innocent Muslims is not acceptable collateral damage for such a fight. Association does not make one culpable for the crimes of others, and its shameful to see it suggested otherwise.
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My emphasis - why have so many Americans fallen into this "fear" trap? Last year, we had the Ebola virus, before that it was "Obama's going to take away our guns!!" that one was combined with irrational fears about Homeland Security buying up all the ammunition for those legally owned guns - both of those resulted in record profits for gun makers and ammunition manufacturers.

Found the following in an article about right wing terrorism in America - which by the way has killed more people in America since 9/11 than Muslims have managed to kill in America
To be fair, you're as likely to be crushed to death by your home's furniture as you are to be killed in any sort of terrorist attack. But with majority of media and government attention focused on Islamic terror, it's definitely worth pointing out that in the years since 9/11, right-wing extremists have murdered nearly 50 percent more people here in the US than have jihadists.
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NIMBY said:
I don't focus on the mentality of other posters when I post as you do, misterveritis.

What I do is post about what traitors like Graham, McConnell, Limbaugh and Bolton say on the world stage.
And I had to watch FOX to catch their acts .
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Had to watch, or got a rod on when you changed channels?
 
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mbig said:
"40,000" is NO exaggeration, if anything it's LOW.

Of course, you can read many/most MSM dailies without the word 'Muslim' even being mentioned.
It's like Muslim immigrants, ie, quadruple in Scandinavia, and Rapes quadruple.. but they don't keep stats on their failed immigration policy, so you're a "bigot" for suggesting the obvious and challenged to produce stats the govt is too PC to keep. Catch 22
Much of Europe is like this.
ie, in the UK it's "Asians" when they really mean 'Muslim Pakistanis'. ('grooming' etc)
Other places (ie, France) it's 'disadvantaged youths' who may just happen to be in the same cities/Muslim burbs the cars are torched in.

In any case "40,000" is NOT an exaggeration.
And note again, the word 'Muslim' is Never once mentioned.

In France, Nothing Says ‘Happy New Year’ Like a Burning Car
France's leftist government ends previous blackout on nationwide New Year's Eve car burning by revealing figures confirming the spread of France's distinctive tradition of auto arson as protest
Time.com - Bruce Crumley Jan. 03, 2013
French Car-Burning Rite Spreads | TIME.com

....
More amazing, still, is the fact that the New Year’s Eve auto roast is only Part of the story. In announcing the New Year’s Eve tally on Jan. 2, Interior Minister Manuel Valls also revealed that figures provided by Fire, Police and Insurance officials indicate that somewhere between 42,000 and 60,000 automobiles are intentionally torched in France every year.
The Majority of those go up in smoke in or near the disadvantaged suburban housing projects located outside most French cities. Indeed, the rest of the world first took notice of France’s distinctive car-burning penchant during the three weeks of nationwide rioting in French housing projects in 2005, when 8,810 automobiles were incinerated by enraged youths. Yet, despite that riot-driven surge of car arson, year-end figures of around 43,000 for 2005 came in at around normal levels. Normal, that is, for flame-happy France."..."​

Yes it goes on to say 20% may be arson for cash, but not the majority.
But again, Forget New Years Eve, About 1000 cars are Torched EVERY week.
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And the connections to Muslims is?
 
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JANFU said:
And the connections to Muslims is?
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I already Explained why you don't keep Religious/ethnic stats.
You have no answer to my common sense reply.

But Besides being Common Knowledge...
The most Burnings are in the Most Muslim Districts. (aka 'disadvantaged suburbs')
See the bottom of the page and Google those districts for the demography.
Voitures brûlées: une «tradition» qui reste vivace

Let's see...
I put up Time.com and Le Figaro, my Apologist opponents.. NOTHING.
Just, AGAIN, hiding behind a govt that doesn't keep ethnic stats.
 
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mbig said:
I already Explained why you don't keep Religious/ethnic stats.
You have no answer to my common sense reply.

But Besides being Common Knowledge...
The most Burnings are in the Most Muslim Districts.
See the bottom of the page and Google those districts for the demography.

Voitures brûlées: une «tradition» qui reste vivace

Let's see...
I put up Time.com and Le Figaro, my Apologist opponents.. NOTHING.
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Apologist. Really- Try harder. Those other hate link I washed my hands after opening them. How id you react to those links?
Did you read what I asked for. Then produce it.
I do not read French.
As to location, what does that mean,assuming again.
 
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JANFU said:
Apologist. Really- Try harder. Those other hate link I washed my hands after opening them. How id you react to those links?
Did you read what I asked for. Then produce it.
I do not read French.
As to location, what does that mean,assuming again.
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It's 2015.
My Chrome Browser Automatically translates. (and others do too thru google etc)
But even if Not, the Districts/numbers at the bottom of the page do NOT need translating.
Ooops!

I do the work, you do NOTHING but Apologism.
Splash II
 
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JANFU said:
Assuming. you do know the saying about assuming. Glad you are not on a Jury trial.
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We know where these attacks happen-in muslim immigrant centers, it didn't happen before they got there, and we know its the same group who frequently riots. Its not ghosts. :lol:
 
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AmericanSpartan said:
No more R.I.P Avenge the Fallen.

They will try and the will die, Leftist tend to then that some how if that side with the enemies of the West and her peoples and their cultures they will be spared..They will not.

Do you think because claim you're more enlightened than the rest of your nations, cultures, peoples they hate you any less?
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And this folks is a shining example of what the right has to offer. Right wing religious conservatives over there attack us over here and what is it right wing conservatives over here have to offer? Revenge. That is ALL that they have to offer. Nothing else. They appeal to people's sense of anger and nothing more. Its not leadership. That's playground mentality... tops.
 
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Somerville said:
Found the following in an article about right wing terrorism in America - which by the way has killed more people in America since 9/11 than Muslims have managed to kill in America
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Right. 34 people murdered by members of a variety of what the author describes as right wing terrorist groups. That is not even considered a rowdy weekend in Chicago. Of course the author conveniently selects his time frame to omit the September 11 attacks that killed about three thousand Americans. He is dishonest. If you had spent five minutes evaluating your source you would not appear to be equally so.
 
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I try to always watch FOX at 5:00 central--Bret Baier's Special Report--the 2nd 30 minutes with the "all-star panel'.
I will never see these things on the other two cable networks--though they refuse to show Limbaugh--that's for MSNBC on Hardball.

DEMs are foolish to not watch what rightie Cons are watching--so they know what they think.
And can then fight the 24/7 GOP messaging war--now full speed ahead on Mrs. Clinton .

JANFU said:
Had to watch, or got a rod on when you changed channels?
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US Conservative said:
We know where these attacks happen-in muslim immigrant centers, it didn't happen before they got there, and we know its the same group who frequently riots. Its not ghosts. :lol:
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Proof or assuming again. Do you have an issue with facts, as i see a ton of assuming.
Never happened before they were there- Nice code words for hate.
 
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mbig said:
It's 2015.
My Chrome Browser Automatically translates. (and others do too thru google etc)
But even if Not, the Districts/numbers at the bottom of the page do NOT need translating.
Ooops!

I do the work, you do NOTHING but Apologism.
Splash II
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I use Firefox- Upgrade to an excellent browser- so no issues for you to provide the French and then the English translation. I can then use a program I trust to translate.
 
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JANFU said:
I use Firefox- Upgrade to an excellent browser- so no issues for you to provide the French and then the English translation. I can then use a program I trust to translate.
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Well then, why don't you look up what I suggested.
(perhaps someone already has)

Number ONE (Le Figaro) in Car Burnings is..

Seine-Saint-Denis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia !

"The ratio of ethnic minorities is difficult to estimate accurately as French law prohibits the collection of ethnic data for census taking purposes. However estimates suggest there are 500,000 Muslims out of a total population of 1.4 million.

Saint-Denis is home to the Union of French Islamic Organizations (UOIF) in the Bourget district, which annually hosts one of Europe's major Muslim conferences, Paris-le-Bourget.

In 2005, 56.7% of young people under 18 were of foreign origin including 38% of African origin (22% from Maghreb and 16% from Sub-Saharan Africa).
ISLAM is believed to be the MOST practiced religion in the department.[1][2]​

and that was 2005, add 10 years and it's even More Muslim.

GAME OVER
 
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