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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    There are no laws against blasphemy in the United States. We are a civilized nation.
    There is! Read your blasphemy laws? Civilized? Looting, rioting, burning police cars is civilised?

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    There is! Read your blasphemy laws? Civilized? Looting, rioting, burning police cars is civilised?
    Wrong. The Supreme Court ruled that blasphemy laws are unconstitutional.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Wrong. The Supreme Court ruled that blasphemy laws are unconstitutional.
    Some states have blasphemy statutes.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Some states have blasphemy statutes.
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    In the United States...a prosecution for blasphemy would violate the Constitution according to the 1952 Supreme Court case Joseph Burstyn, Inc v. Wilson.

    ...United States of America

    Main article: Blasphemy law in the United States of America

    A prosecution for blasphemy in the United States would fail as a violation of the U.S. Constitution. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides:

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press . . . ."

    Because of the First Amendment's protection of free speech and religious exercise from federal interference, and the Supreme Court's extension of those protections against state regulation, the United States and its constituent state governments may not prosecute blasphemous speech or religious insults and may not allow civil actions on those grounds. In Joseph Burstyn, Inc. v. Wilson, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that New York could not enforce a censorship law against filmmakers whose films contained "sacrilegious" content. The opinion of the Court, by Justice Clark, stated that:

    "From the standpoint of freedom of speech and the press, it is enough to point out that the state has no legitimate interest in protecting any or all religions from views distasteful to them which is sufficient to justify prior restraints upon the expression of those views. It is not the business of government in our nation to suppress real or imagined attacks upon a particular religious doctrine, whether they appear in publications, speeches, or motion pictures." Blasphemy law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    From Wiki:

    In the United States...a prosecution for blasphemy would violate the Constitution according to the 1952 Supreme Court case Joseph Burstyn, Inc v. Wilson.

    ...United States of America

    Main article: Blasphemy law in the United States of America

    A prosecution for blasphemy in the United States would fail as a violation of the U.S. Constitution. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides:

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press . . . ."

    Because of the First Amendment's protection of free speech and religious exercise from federal interference, and the Supreme Court's extension of those protections against state regulation, the United States and its constituent state governments may not prosecute blasphemous speech or religious insults and may not allow civil actions on those grounds. In Joseph Burstyn, Inc. v. Wilson, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that New York could not enforce a censorship law against filmmakers whose films contained "sacrilegious" content. The opinion of the Court, by Justice Clark, stated that:

    "From the standpoint of freedom of speech and the press, it is enough to point out that the state has no legitimate interest in protecting any or all religions from views distasteful to them which is sufficient to justify prior restraints upon the expression of those views. It is not the business of government in our nation to suppress real or imagined attacks upon a particular religious doctrine, whether they appear in publications, speeches, or motion pictures." Blasphemy law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I could do some editing for you here in a minute.

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Before I say anything else, can someone answer for me this question: On a scale of 0-10, how bad is the Islamophobia in this thread?
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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Few of us here in the US will agree with RDS but he is politely showing us an example of what people in other regions DO think.

    I dont agree but I dont dismiss what he's saying. It's stupid to deny opposing views, that just leads to underestimating your opponents.

    Just a general statement, not only directed at you Apocalypse.
    Moral society, globally, adheres to Western standards.
    Not the standards of Lybia and Nigeria mind you.
    So yes I do dismiss his opinion as wrong, as it is.
    Your approach is quite counterproductive Lursa.
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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Before I say anything else, can someone answer for me this question: On a scale of 0-10, how bad is the Islamophobia in this thread?
    Whatever the actual number is, the correct answer is "not bad enough".
    Disclaimer: If you are offended by the above post, and you aren't a SJW or truther, grow a pair.

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    Whatever the actual number is, the correct answer is "not bad enough".
    Yup, that's what I thought.

    Humans are such a fascinating species. Some of its factions try to defend their little turf on their insignificantly tiny home, as if doing so were more important than life itself. They are so myopic. They haven't even figured out where to go when their little home inevitably expires someday, let alone how to get enough living creatures there to sustain a biosphere.
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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    Well Socialist, it was your kind that left them into the West under "Multiculturalism" and "Diversity".
    What? I mean yeah the extremists are bad and we need to police against it. But does that mean we should understand there are a variety of other folk with different cultures that can all contribute positively to a group? Probably shouldn't be throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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