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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Freedom of speech does give you the freedom to mock a religion.
    I'm pretty sure mocking things is a natural right, as a harmless expression. Opposing mockery only serves extreme nationalist or religious elements.

    What kind of faith does one have in opposing religious mockery.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Freedom of expression does not give you the licence to make a mockery of religion. Charlie Hebdo planted the time bomb and it exploded.
    If you don't know what freedom of speech means you better avoid using the term.
    Just a small advice.
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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Freedom of expression does not give you the licence to make a mockery of religion. Charlie Hebdo planted the time bomb and it exploded.
    And what do they deserve for their expression?
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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    I also live in a Muslim country and most of the time considered 3rd world citizen, have hard time at visas etc.

    I know its very difficult to make any distinction when looking at a country from outside and far away and make any specific observations. But considering Turkey its very obvious that there are around %10 - 15 population that live by the western standards.

    I am not saying let us immigrate to your countries, I am trying to point out, maybe its also time that west turn their eyes to the situation in Turkey.. Islam is taking over here by the use of democracy and uneducated population. Maybe take some example and be proactive where you live..

    ISIS is being supported by masses, also armed and financed by the government...

    Everything that happens, is explained by conspiracy theories, even the attack on Paris raised some doubts on morons out here, saying its west trying to show Islam is violent.. The Ignorace is unbearable but its a fact... And trying to live through it is a torture don't make the same mistake. And really be careful..

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Freedom of speech does give you the freedom to mock a religion.

    You're blaming the journos at the magazine for the attack on them. Blame those who perpetrated the attack.
    Read your blasphemy statutes.

    In the United States, a law against blasphemy, or a prosecution on that ground, would violate the American Constitution. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press..." While there are no federal laws which forbid "religious vilification" or "religious insult" or "hate speech", some states have blasphemy statutes.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    If you don't know what freedom of speech means you better avoid using the term.
    Just a small advice.
    Avoid? I can talk bull**** and its freedom of expression.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    And what do they deserve for their expression?
    They prefer to be a dead hero.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Freedom of expression does not give you the licence to make a mockery of religion. Charlie Hebdo planted the time bomb and it exploded.


    **** that puritanical noise. if a mockery of your religion makes you want to kill people, you have no faith.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    They prefer to be a dead hero.
    What they deserve is "They prefer to be a dead hero"? Your response doesn't make any sense.
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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Front page of England's Independent newspaper

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    more cartoons here
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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