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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It is is also highly political. Religion was the means to cement followers for conquest.

    We can stop inviting Islamofascists into this country. We can also insist on assimilation. Anything less puts the nation farther along the path to national suicide. There are many here on visas. We can track them and ensure they leave when their visas expire.

    We have enough cockroaches and scorpions of our own. We do need to stop bringing more in.
    I dislike Islam immensely, but a right is a right, if they come and preach and shout allahuh ak****whatever those inferior religious sayings are, so long as they do not break the law and harm others, they are free to do so.

    Absolutely, 100% free to do so.

    Not a tihng you can do, not a thing I can do, not a thing we can do.

    I understand that Islam has a history of intertwining itself with the politics of the ME and still does so to an unparalleled degree, that was not the original point I made when addressing spartan, that was a made up point from a certain fool who decided to misquote people (which this fool has a bad habit of doing).
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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    From the BBC:

    ...the lawyer for Charlie Hebdo, Richard Malka, confirmed that next week's edition of the magazine would go ahead on Wednesday and would have a print run of one million, instead of the normal 60,000 copies.

    BBC News - Charlie Hebdo massacre: Suspects 'rob service station'

    This is good news. It is vitally important that the terrorists and others who might seek to stifle free expression understand that they will not succeed.

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    why should innocent people;e be bared from coming hear based on their faith its un American
    Well how many times do they have to prove themselves as a violent and blood thirsty group before we wake up and bar them from coming here.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    If the supposed lesson is aimed at bolstering a retreat on free expression, it won't happen and it must not happen. Free expression, not all of which is tasteful and some of which can shock the senses, is the lifeblood of creativity, innovation, and human progress. France in particular in the wake of the terrorist attack and the West in general cannot afford to yield on this core freedom without sacrificing far more than any supposed reduction in fear might produce. Indeed, if France or the West retreated, secular government might well become the next target in future attacks?
    Free expression demolishing a religion has no place in Asia.

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Not much diversity within the ME.
    How have you arrived at that conclusion?
    I was talking about Islamic sects and secularists etc,not racial diversity.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Found this on Facebook

    ‘Je suis Charlie’? No, You’re Not, or Else You Might Be Dead

    One of the spontaneous social-media reactions to the Charlie Hebdo massacre today was the Twitter hashtag #JeSuisCharlie ("I am Charlie"). It's an admirable sentiment, resonant with the classic post-9/11 Le Monde cover "Nous sommes tous Americains." It's also totally inaccurate.

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    So no, we're all not Charlie—few of us are that good, and none of us are that brave. If more of us were brave, and refused to yield to the bomber's veto, and maybe reacted to these eternally recurring moments not by, say, deleting all your previously published Muhammad images, as the Associated Press is reportedly doing today, but rather by routinely posting newsworthy images in service both to readers and the commitment to a diverse and diffuse marketplace of speech, then just maybe Charlie Hebdo wouldn't have stuck out so much like a sore thumb. It's harder, and ultimately less rewarding to the fanatical mind, to hit a thousand small targets than one large one.

    And it's not just those of us in the media business who have failed to be Charlie Hebdo. Every person in the broader West, whether it be a Financial Times editor or the president of the United States, who wrongly thinks that speech should not offend, and falsely believes that artistic commentary can somehow incite murderous violence, are also contributing to an ever-worsening cultural climate of speech, and therefore freedom.

    Today is an awful day for the basic project of free inquiry. Do you really wanna be Charlie Hebdo? Then get on out there, live and speak bravely. And God help you.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Free expression demolishing a religion has no place in Asia.
    Religion demolishing free speech has no place in the west.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Religion demolishing free speech has no place in the west.
    Imagine if this happened in India or Pakistan all hell will break loose.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Freedom of expression does not give you the licence to make a mockery of religion. Charlie Hebdo planted the time bomb and it exploded.
    Freedom of speech does give you the freedom to mock a religion.

    You're blaming the journos at the magazine for the attack on them. Blame those who perpetrated the attack.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Imagine if this happened in India or Pakistan all hell will break loose.
    The west isn't india or pakistan.

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