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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    You're equating free speech with yelling "Fire!" and blaming the victims here. I can't agree that the world should appease those who are offended by religious satire. Yes, the magazine was known for making light of the Prophet. What you're saying is that they asked for it--that they dared and invited this attack. I guess they did, but the problem is not what they did; it's how these terrorists responded.
    The problem is both. Not everything can be reduced to black hats and white hats like it is some spaghetti western. There is a reason that the site in which you are participating now has special rules for certain sections of the forum, yet still you are here generating traffic despite your implied convictions regarding standing up for freedom of speech. Why is that?

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris [W:157]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    Christians and Jews? They don't go around murdering cartoonists for mocking them. Muslims? Slaughter anyone who speaks ill of their "god". Muslims are NOT a religion, they are a very dangerous cult.

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris [W:157]

    Multi-culturalism failing yet again.

    European Politicians did this to their own Countries and citizens.

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris [W:157]

    I would like to add a hopeful note here and point out that the President of Egypt, speaking before a gathering of Muslim leaders in his country, spoke in strong terms about the need for these leaders to lead a revolution within their ranks and Muslim teachings to take back their religion from the extremists.

    Egypt's President calls for a 'religious revolution' - CNN.com

    Some particularly pointed references:

    "It's inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire Islamic world to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible that this thinking -- and I am not saying the religion -- I am saying this thinking," el-Sisi said.

    "This is antagonizing the entire world. It's antagonizing the entire world! Does this mean that 1.6 billion people (Muslims) should want to kill the rest of the world's inhabitants -- that is 7 billion -- so that they themselves may live? Impossible!​"

    If only more political leaders in predominantly Muslim countries could be so outspoken and strong in their views, Islamic radicalism could be challenged and defeated from within. Perhaps naive, but hopeful nonetheless.
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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris [W:157]

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    Christians and Jews? They don't go around murdering cartoonists for mocking them. Muslims? Slaughter anyone who speaks ill of their "god". Muslims are NOT a religion, they are a very dangerous cult.
    I strongly disagree here. There can be extremism in all forms of religion, whether it be Muslim, or even Christian. 2 examples here.....

    1) In Houston, there is both a Jewish community and a Muslim community. Both communities get along with each other fine, and Muslims have Jewish friends and Jews have Muslim friends. These are not extremists.

    2) On the other hand, you do have your Timothy McVeighs, David Koreshes, abortion doctor murderers, those who lynched black people in the South in the 20th Century, and the like, who have claimed to be devout Christians. Of course, we are talking extremists here.

    Take any religion to it's extreme, and you will find murder. There is a reason we have less of it than other nations. We have strong laws, and they do work to an extent to keep the nutters from creating mayhem and terror in the USA.

    On the other hand, I am not going to blame all of Islam for what extremists do in the name of that religion. If I did, then it would only be fair to blame all of Christianity for the acts of Timothy McVeigh, abortion doctor murderers, those who lynched blacks in the South, and the likes of David Koresh and Jim Jones. They do not represent Christianity any more than the Paris terrorists represent Islam.
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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris [W:157]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    It is an attempt at censorship. What better method could there be than to direct acts of terror at media that publish inappropriate opinions.
    Interestingly no reader comments were allowed for any of the articles on Spiegel online that I looked up. I wonder if the terrorism is already showing signs of success.
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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Yes it does, you think Muslims became refugees voluntarily? You think they became radicalized the moment they were born?

    That is the root of the problem but of course since you want these military interventions to continue you like to hide that fact.
    Yes....
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris [W:157]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I strongly disagree here. There can be extremism in all forms of religion, whether it be Muslim, or even Christian. 2 examples here.....

    1) In Houston, there is both a Jewish community and a Muslim community. Both communities get along with each other fine, and Muslims have Jewish friends and Jews have Muslim friends. These are not extremists.

    2) On the other hand, you do have your Timothy McVeighs, David Koreshes, abortion doctor murderers, those who lynched black people in the South in the 20th Century, and the like, who have claimed to be devout Christians. Of course, we are talking extremists here.

    Take any religion to it's extreme, and you will find murder. There is a reason we have less of it than other nations. We have strong laws, and they do work to an extent to keep the nutters from creating mayhem and terror in the USA.

    On the other hand, I am not going to blame all of Islam for what extremists do in the name of that religion. If I did, then it would only be fair to blame all of Christianity for the acts of Timothy McVeigh, abortion doctor murderers, those who lynched blacks in the South, and the likes of David Koresh and Jim Jones. They do not represent Christianity any more than the Paris terrorists represent Islam.
    I LOVE the arguement you just posted...that all religions to date, have their extremists.

    So let's do some math, shall we?

    Cite for us the amount killed in the name of Allah by suicide bombings, beheadings, kidnappings...etc in just the past 10 years.

    Then, cite for us the amount killed in the name of Jesus Christ in the past 50 years.

    Also, cite the frequency... the result? Islam, contemporary islam, is nothing but terror. Thank you for replying!

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Not possible, Paris has strict gun control laws.
    Parisian gun laws are so strict, that the cops responded, unarmed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris [W:157]

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    I LOVE the arguement you just posted...that all religions to date, have their extremists.

    So let's do some math, shall we?

    Cite for us the amount killed in the name of Allah by suicide bombings, beheadings, kidnappings...etc in just the past 10 years.

    Then, cite for us the amount killed in the name of Jesus Christ in the past 50 years.

    Also, cite the frequency... the result? Islam, contemporary islam, is nothing but terror. Thank you for replying!
    Torqemada would disagree with you here. He was responsible for the slaughter of many thousands of Jews and non-believers in the Middle Ages. He, of course, represented the Catholic Church.
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