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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    not my problem every where you find Islam you find this, do not want it, do not need, stop immigration for members of its fate, they have the right to be a Muslim, they do not have the right to come here.
    why should innocent people;e be bared from coming hear based on their faith its un American

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    And now it looks like a car bomb has gone off in front of a synagogue nearby.
    REPORT: Sarcelles Synagogue Car Explodes - Business Insider


    edit-looks like it was a mechanical failure. Interesting timing though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Unfortunate. While I do not condone the attack or defend the actors involved, that this magazine continued to taunt people it knew would be coming after them hardly gives them clean hands in the events. My best to the survivors and sympathies to the family of the fallen officer.
    What a particularly vile and disturbed claim - that the magazine's hands are dirty, and thus can't be excused from responsibility for their own murder?

    Wow, I know Progressives are foolish, but you're the Captain of that branch of the misguided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    No ... You know how there's a few DP members on the right side of things that see Russia or Iran as "the enemy" and therefore often make nonsense war-hawk posts? How outraged would those posters be if Russia/Iran was putting in an actual effort to continually antagonize us? Such things justify those DP member's biases and encourage them to be reactionary and violent.

    What I'd argue is much better is encouraging and supporting a worldwide environment of free press, free speech and open dissent. You don't do that by having conservative publications try to pick a fight with insults and retributions -- that'd probably result in a Holy War -- but by supporting liberal thinkers and policies across the world. There's many progressive voices in the Arab and Islamic worlds willing to speak out, who need the platforms (... the retweets, awards and praise) the West can give them. EG,

    "Mrs. Maryam Rajavi, President-elect of the Iranian Resistance, strongly condemned the ruthless terrorist attack on the office of a French magazine in Paris and the killing and injuring of a number of its staff and reporters" ... That's a moderate Muslim opposition leader in Iran. She's not a Westerner. That's important. Her words are a lot more dangerous, and a way more persuasive than any inflammatory/spammy drawings of Muhammad.
    if they cant handle some cartoons they don't sound that moderate any 1 who wants to start a holy war over a picture needs to be killed for the good of every one else

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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    And now it looks like a car bomb has gone off in front of a synagogue nearby. Anyone wanna bet that the "religion of peace" is involved?
    I saw the picture of the car - frankly it looks more like a standard car fire than a car bomb - perhaps a failed car bomb.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    BS. The killer at sandy hook had mental illness, these attackers were almost certainly not. Don't equivocate-they aren't just "crazy", this was planned and they knew what they wanted to do.
    Your point is that the attackers in France aren't mentally disturbed.

    So they were acting without mental issues? Is mass murder a rational thing to you, US Conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    You do not the Islamic world is a nuclear arms race and they will get one by Summer...Assuming they do not get on from Pakistan or North Korea.
    Pakistan is far more irrational and unstable than Iran. A plurality of Pakistan's territory -- the North -- is completely controlled by terror groups. There's continuous terror attacks in Islamabad, its capital city. Americans can travel in Iran; that's much more difficult in Pakistan.

    It'd be a whole lot safer for the world, actually, if Pakistan's nuclear weapons were given to Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    No ... You know how there's a few DP members on the right side of things that see Russia or Iran as "the enemy" and therefore often make nonsense war-hawk posts? How outraged would those posters be if Russia/Iran was putting in an actual effort to continually antagonize us? Such things justify those DP member's biases and encourage them to be reactionary and violent.

    What I'd argue is much better is encouraging and supporting a worldwide environment of free press, free speech and open dissent. You don't do that by having conservative publications try to pick a fight with insults and retributions -- that'd probably result in a Holy War -- but by supporting liberal thinkers and policies across the world. There's many progressive voices in the Arab and Islamic worlds willing to speak out, who need the platforms (... the retweets, awards and praise) the West can give them. EG,

    "Mrs. Maryam Rajavi, President-elect of the Iranian Resistance, strongly condemned the ruthless terrorist attack on the office of a French magazine in Paris and the killing and injuring of a number of its staff and reporters" ... That's a moderate Muslim opposition leader in Iran. She's not a Westerner. That's important. Her words are a lot more dangerous, and a way more persuasive than any inflammatory/spammy drawings of Muhammad.
    If she is Iranian she is most probably Shi'a, so just iow much here words mean is doubtful in terms of reform.
    But your point is valid - I feel like spamming, but towards what ends, just because it makes me feel good?
    No real good can come from it.

    I do not believe the west/other religions can reform the Sunni salafi. It is their fundamentalism that is driving 99% of this.
    Maybe 1% tribal or nationalism, but I pick 99% to show the overwhelming need to understand just where this comes from

    where to go from here.....??

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Islam was founded as a religion of conquest. It was founded around 600 AD, and by 711 AD it was invading Spain, and then France in 719 AD. Everywhere it spread Islam was by the sword. Islam had been at war with the West in the West for over 300 years before the first Crusade was launched. If you want to talk about first causes then wrap your brain around a little history.

    Islam is not a religion of peace, and we didn't screw up the Middle East. It has been a mess for as long as history has recorded. We only returned to the Middle East in the first half of the 20th Century because the Middle Eastern barbarians had a habit of backing the bad guys bent on conquering the West.



    Mornin' JM. That is the one point that constantly is missed. Yet we are blamed for being involved. Despite being asked, begged and pleaded to do so.

    Another point would be about the Arabs hijacking the religion from the get go. As Hortar.....The Mother of Ishmael. Was Egyptian.....despite being a slave owned By Abraham and Sarah.

    Oh, and Mohammad is not alleged to be God Personified on the Earth. Never was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    if they cant handle some cartoons they don't sound that moderate any 1 who wants to start a holy war over a picture needs to be killed for the good of every one else
    Continued violence over trivial and extraneous criticisms of Islam will further alienate Islam from the world. Perhaps that is what Islam needs to kick off a metamorphosis to not tolerate killers in their mosques, to reject hate filled actions and preaching and finally remove themselves from radicals. Yes yes.... this is not ALL of Islam but it sure is more than a few nuts as we see in Syria, Iraq and world wide radicalized Islamic terrorist groups and hate mongers.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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