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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well then, they are going to have to change their structure if they are to be seen as authentic in speaking out against those they say are subverting their religion aren't they? Because as long as Tyqqia is an accepted practice within Islam, then we can't trust a single one of them.
    Tyqqia?? is what?
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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Tyqqia?? is what?
    Sorry, I misspelled it....Taqiyya


    "Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."

    There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them."
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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    And the guy who wrote that piece is a much-criticized radical cleric.
    I see, so you know-as a non-muslim American leftist-what islam really is-but he does not.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    It is a hate Islam site.

    http://www.barenakedislam.com/about/
    Islam is NOT a religion of peace, nor does Islam mean peace. Islam means submission.
    Most people are simply unaware that Islam is NOT just another religion but a totalitarian political cult-like ideology, which compels its followers into blind obedience, teaches intolerance, brutality and locks all Muslims and non-Muslims in a struggle deriving directly from the 7th century nomadic, predatory, Bedouin culture.
    Islam means “submission” to the will of Allah and the teachings as depicted in the Qur’an which include jihad – the genocidal slaughter of infidels by the sword, killing by beheading, intolerance of other religions, as well as forcing submission to Islam. The ultimate goal of jihad is the domination of Islam over the entire world.
    That site isn't a hate site for posting factual data, do you think the photo was staged? Perhaps because it conflicts with your theoretical views based off of lefty pc dogma?

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    And it looks like in Germany islamists may have burned down another lefty magazine, that was publishing hebdo cartoons.
    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/arson-atta...072635062.html

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I see, so you know-as a non-muslim American leftist-what islam really is-but he does not.

    The pearls you drop are something to behold.
    That's a nice way to twist my words into something I never said, but I expect only dishonesty from you.
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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sorry, I misspelled it....Taqiyya


    "Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."

    There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them."
    A brief trip to Wiki corrects the misrepresentation above. The sole lie permitted is to deny your faith. (in the case of Taquiyya, to deny your Shia faith to Sunnis under fear of death if you admit it.)
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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    It is a hate Islam site.

    http://www.barenakedislam.com/about/
    Islam is NOT a religion of peace, nor does Islam mean peace. Islam means submission.
    Most people are simply unaware that Islam is NOT just another religion but a totalitarian political cult-like ideology, which compels its followers into blind obedience, teaches intolerance, brutality and locks all Muslims and non-Muslims in a struggle deriving directly from the 7th century nomadic, predatory, Bedouin culture.
    Islam means “submission” to the will of Allah and the teachings as depicted in the Qur’an which include jihad – the genocidal slaughter of infidels by the sword, killing by beheading, intolerance of other religions, as well as forcing submission to Islam. The ultimate goal of jihad is the domination of Islam over the entire world.
    Hate, like prejudice or 'racism', has now become the Islamic apologists to truth.

    If you can find anything false being said about Islam you can easily find rebuttal, or if you discover anything positive about this religion you can share that with other posters as well. Denial doesn't move the debate forward, nor does accusations.

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    re: Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    You are referring to man Choudry?
    And he is an idiot.
    What about the Ayatollah Khomeini? He was very influential in Islamic circles and in fact was wildly popular in Iran when he took over from the dreaded Shah. Even Western Leftists were crazy about this guy and figured he would be a huge improvement over what went previous.

    Here are a few of his musings which, though highly educational and insightful, has not received the coverage from the MSM they may have deserved. The Shagged Sheep :: SteynOnline

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    Re: Terror Attack In Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    They do have a loose reverence for Mufti's, and Mullah's, as well as Qadi's, plus there are theological schools for them just as with Christian religions....But, you are correct in that they do not have the same structure that Christianity does, which IMO is what allows radicals like what we see today....So, pretty convenient isn't it?
    It's very convenient. No matter what they say or do they can claim it is not the 'real' Islam, though being rather unspecific about what the 'real' Islam is. All anyone in the West can tell is that it is strongly identified with the Third World poverty, misogynistic tendencies and suspicion of any non-Islamic education.

    It certainly lacks the confidence of other religions strong enough to accept criticism without resorting to murdering anyone who insults their faith.

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