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1.) So you say, but it does not make it so. And I engaged in no strawman
2.) government protections equates to control. There is no way to separate government protections from control, especially when the government without authority defines, licenses, and attempts to restrict personal relationships. So, no false position and a totally accurate assessment of what defining marriage has done. Now we need marriage equality, and the majority of the States now have it in some regard.
3.)The good news is I can be ok with marriage equality as I know the government will always be involved in marriage one way or another.
4.)Governments hate to give up control, but that does not remove my stance on the matter nor is it a strawman.
1.)I agree "me" saying doesnt make it true but facts and post history do
this was your straman: "Worse, you are basically saying a marriage is all about finances and outside controls."
never said this so its a strawman by definition. Your post fails and facts win again.
2.) meaningless to anything i said, seems you want to have a NEW discussion. This is ALSO a straw man since its not being discussed by me and has nothing to do with our discussion.
3.) exactly, good thing you finally agree with the truth
4.) see #2