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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So you don't want them to recognize family units, exactly what I said. What's the ploy?
    I thought I already covered that in post #7, what are you confused about?
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    The Tampa news featured the top of page 1 a big picture of two gay men marrying, picking a black man and white man marrying to kill two birds with one stone in being PC.

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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    I thought I already covered that in post #7, what are you confused about?
    Government will always be involved in legal marriage, theres no other ways to have the contract and rights protected
    people that dont want a legal marriage are free to do so
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    Great news for freedom and equality.... (y)

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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Government will always be involved in legal marriage, theres no other ways to have the contract and rights protected
    people that dont want a legal marriage are free to do so
    Explain to us why a contract is needed, and who is being protected from what?
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Explain to us why a contract is needed
    2.) and who is being protected from what?
    1.) sure thats easy kids, inheritance, property, medical, family issues and many other rights etc
    2.) spouses and family from infringements and the above being denied, taken away etc

    government will always be involved in legal marriage
    like i said if people dont want a legal marriage they are free to not have one right now
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) sure thats easy kids, inheritance, property, medical, family issues and many other rights etc
    2.) spouses and family from infringements and the above being denied, taken away etc

    government will always be involved in legal marriage
    like i said if people dont want a legal marriage they are free to not have one right now
    What makes you think all of that goes away if one does not have a contract with the government? Worse, you are basically saying a marriage is all about finances and outside controls.
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    1.)What makes you think all of that goes away if one does not have a contract with the government?
    2.) Worse, you are basically saying a marriage is all about finances and outside controls.
    1.) because it factually would without some other contract, laws, protections etc (government)
    2.) actually i didnt say that in anyway whatsoever, you said that lol but please make up another failed strawman. Did you miss the part about people are free to not have a legal marriage? oooops try again
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) because it factually would without some other contract, laws, protections etc (government)
    2.) actually i didnt say that in anyway whatsoever, you said that lol but please make up another failed strawman. Did you miss the part about people are free to not have a legal marriage? oooops try again
    Not necessarily, the whole purpose of "contract, laws, protections, etc. (government)" is about control. To ensure an outcome that I contend the government has no Constitutional authority to enforce upon the populace. It has nothing to do with free to not have a legal marriage or not, it has to do with an unequal determination that also the government has no Constitutional authority to make. I have not missed anything, nor engaging in a Strawman (you may want to look up what that means.) By definition government interference into what is "legal marriage" for the purpose of protecting something is control.
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Nearly all the states that disallow SSM are the same states that happened to support slavery.

    What a backwards part of the USA, a shame.
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