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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    1.)Not in the US it doesn't. I can have a contract with another person without government involvement. Just me, the lawyers and the other person. ENFORCEMENT of the terms of the contract if taken to court include the government - in the form of a judicial court. Other than that the government isn't involved.
    2.)Well then there are 1200 boxes to check to remove government.
    1.) uhm exactly which means government is involved if theres no enforcement behind it (protection) its meaningless
    2.) and then legal marriage would be pointless and other contracts would be needed making it dumb to dismantle marriage
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

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    So when you pass away, who inherits your stuff?
    The people and family members I have specified in my will.
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Because the process would take time and effort. It would have to start with looking at government legislation on the books thus far (local on up) in how relationships are defined and why. The only place to start is with elements the government uses for whatever reason. Tax code, healthcare, etc.

    You asking about it is starting to sound like the real dodge here. Removal does not mean replacement.
    another dodge, thanks thats what i thought, let us know when you can answer lol
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

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    The people and family members I have specified in my will.
    What if you don't have a will?
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    I'd just like to add something to the discussion since I'm new here. A lot of people consider me right-leaning socially. I'm actually the opposite. I joined the Army during a time of two wars not because I wanted to fight, but because I am very passionate about equal and civil rights for all law abiding, tax paying citizens. When I see people being oppressed, it kills me.

    I think gay marriage is a civil right and fully support it. I think the argument "well if I can marry another guy, can I marry a goat???" is ridiculous. I look forward to the day gay marriage is legalized federally.
    thats because like the majority of americans you care about your fellow american and thier equal rights

    and of course that non-argument it ridiculous, its dishonest and nobody educated and honest takes it seriously
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) uhm exactly which means government is involved if theres no enforcement behind it (protection) its meaningless
    Unless there is a dispute government isn't involved. Prove then that they are involved if you disagree.

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    2.) and then legal marriage would be pointless and other contracts would be needed making it dumb to dismantle marriage
    You consider it dumb that's fine. You like government involvement - that's also fine. You demanded an answer to your question - I gave you one, at least a starting point of one.
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The people and family members I have specified in my will.
    oh so another piece of paper that will involve government instead of the other piece of paper that involves government. SOunds great!
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thats because like the majority of americans you care about your fellow american and thier equal rights

    and of course that non-argument it ridiculous, its dishonest and nobody educated and honest takes it seriously
    I was a Republican, however, with notions like "gay marriage should be illegal" and their stance on abortion... it drove me further and further away. It's not just social issues. To be honest, i don't even know where I lie, politically. I do know that I defend the right for two tax-paying, law abiding citizens and consenting adults to marry.

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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    1.)Unless there is a dispute government isn't involved. Prove then that they are involved if you disagree.
    2.) You consider it dumb that's fine.
    3.) You like government involvement - that's also fine.
    4.) You demanded an answer to your question - I gave you one, at least a starting point of one.
    1.) exactly so just like i said they are involve because they enforce it and protect it
    thats like saying the government isnt involved in laws . . unless you break them . . that type of dishonest is laughed at
    sorry the fact remains government is involved
    2.) no it would be dumb to negate the 1200 rights, protections and benifits and to have to get them another way that will still involve government
    3.) not the involvement the protection of my rights and contract is what i like otherwise its meanignless
    4.) and your answer failed because government would still be involved
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    Re: As gay marriages begin in Florida, Supreme Court is set to meet on issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What if you don't have a will?
    It then depends what is considered joint ownership and what is not. Probate court gets involved since I live in NJ. If a person does not have life insurance or a will and doesn't identify a beneficiary - then probate court determines where the assets go.
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