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    re: Police chief's anti-racism sign lauded, criticized[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    so you are welcome to answer the same question

    do you agree with this statement:

    "He's suggesting that all his officers are racists."

    yes or no

    if yes please present the facts that support the assumption and make it true
    if no then facts win again

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    Of course he's not suggesting that all his officers are racist. Who here has argued that's what he meant? I've just repeatedly stated that this sign did not just suddenly pop up and that everything else that's occurred since the Ferguson shooting is just all irrelevant.

    Of course that sign would be viewed and interpreted in the context of all the other allegations being made against cops, lately, and if that chief really did not realize that then, while he may not be stupid, he's incredibly naive.

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    re: Police chief's anti-racism sign lauded, criticized[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Correct, at work is specified. That does not mean he will encounter it alot, or regularly, or that every one is racist, or anything else. Simply that when he does encounter it, he will challenge it. When you have to assume he means stuff, because it fits the narrative you want to build, you are creating a dishonest, integrityless argument. How about actually discussing what the sign does say, instead of what you wish it said so you be all outraged.
    Incidentally, I said it would be viewed as an admission that racism is this large problem with the police and look at the very first response to this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    I applaud him for accepting the fact that there is institutional racism in the criminal justice system. I think that his approach is the correct one. This is not something that can be changed through legislation, it is a cultural thing. We live in a culture where minorities are seen as trouble makers. No legislation can change that. It will take people like this police chief, and minorities that denounce the use of violent protest and looting as a method of advancing their views.
    Now, to be consistent with what you're telling me, you should disagree with what I've bolded. Do you?

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    re: Police chief's anti-racism sign lauded, criticized[W:81]

    Lets hope the PC vows to stamp out racism on all fronts, so that we can move on to distinguishing right from wrong once again without making excuses based on color of skin.

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    re: Police chief's anti-racism sign lauded, criticized[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    1.)Of course he's not suggesting that all his officers are racist.
    2.) Who here has argued that's what he meant?
    1.) thanks then facts win again, just like i said
    2.) the author of the quote who is wrong
    the rest of your opinions/post has nothing to do with anything I was discussing or the inane assumption I (and others) pointed out to not be logical.

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    re: Police chief's anti-racism sign lauded, criticized[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) thanks then facts win again, just like i said
    2.) the author of the quote who is wrong
    the rest of your opinions/post has nothing to do with anything I was discussing or the inane assumption I (and others) pointed out to not be logical.

    thanks for agreeing with us and supporting/agreeing my posts in this thread
    Sure, whatever.

    I made this point once before. We're often told that the Ferguson shooting by itself is not the issue and that we must view it in light of all other police action to understand Ferguson protestors, yet, in this case, we're to view that sign in a vacuum and without any context at all.

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    re: Police chief's anti-racism sign lauded, criticized[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    As posted above, I agree with apdst so he's not alone.

    If the Police Chief was smart and wanted to start a dialogue and not blatantly accuse his new command of racism he would have held up a sign that said "I Resolve to Challenge Racism Wherever I Find It". That would be leadership.
    The Police Chief, the chief spokesman and public perception of his force stood as that Representative and stated, in uniform, that his force was anti rascist. Sounds and looks like a good guy using the best possible imagery to convey the message. If it was meant as a private, personal opinion, he would not have been in uniform. It makes one proud of the Pittsburgh Police, not just the Chief.

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    re: Police chief's anti-racism sign lauded, criticized[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Sure, whatever.

    I made this point once before. We're often told that the Ferguson shooting by itself is not the issue and that we must view it in light of all other police action to understand Ferguson protestors, yet, in this case, we're to view that sign in a vacuum and without any context at all.
    more subjective opinion and points that have nothing to do with anything i said in this thread
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    re: Police chief's anti-racism sign lauded, criticized[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The Police Chief, the chief spokesman and public perception of his force stood as that Representative and stated, in uniform, that his force was anti rascist. Sounds and looks like a good guy using the best possible imagery to convey the message. If it was meant as a private, personal opinion, he would not have been in uniform. It makes one proud of the Pittsburgh Police, not just the Chief.
    That's a convenient backpedal that ignores all context of the past couple of months.

    1. The sign said "challenge racism where I work"

    2. The Chief was wearing his Pittsburgh police uniform, letting everyone know where he works.

    3. His sign blatantly implies that there is racism in the Pittsburgh police department and he will challenge it.

    Only a complete fool or someone disinterested in honest discussion would interpret the sign otherwise in the context in which it was presented and the context in which American police officers are currently living.

    It's that simple.
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    re: Police chief's anti-racism sign lauded, criticized[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Incidentally, I said it would be viewed as an admission that racism is this large problem with the police and look at the very first response to this thread.



    Now, to be consistent with what you're telling me, you should disagree with what I've bolded. Do you?
    When you are using random people omn the internet to try and booster your false, lying narrative so you can be outraged, that is pretty much a huge failure.
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    re: Police chief's anti-racism sign lauded, criticized[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Nonsense
    No, it's true. If people who support the police actively ending institutional racism in their ranks set the tone, then a police chief holding that sign is not tone deaf. The only people who would not support the police chief are people who don't want the police to end institutional racism and what do we call those people : RACISTS!

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