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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    1. Response was proportional. Man on bike pulled over for not having a light at night...Safety issue. When stopped, man ditches bike and runs...So, according to you, ah well, too bad, guess that one got away right? Wrong! That's not how police react to someone running, and not how they should react to that.

    2. Police have the right to go into, or through your yard in the pursuit of a criminal running...That is just a fact. And, I'll go one further, if the police are chasing someone who ran through your property, and they follow and are confronted by your dog, whom then attacks, they have a right to defend themselves, and that includes the K9.

    3. Well, they need not stop and ask every homeowner if they can run through their backyard while in pursuit of a fleeing suspect, that's just foolish to think that they should. As a homeowner myself, I know that if the cops are running through my yard after someone they have my implicit permission, and I hope they catch the suspect without injury to themselves. Further, if my dog attacks them coming through, and they have to protect themselves from him, then they have to do what they have to do...I understand...

    I can only guess by your answers here that you want police at a disadvantage.
    Since this is at night, put yourself in the dog owner's shoes. It is dark and you see a figure running through your property who pulls a gun to shoot your dog. Do you then have the right to shoot him to defend you and your family from an unknown armed person shooting his gun on your property?

    Far as he knows this might be some madman out there on his property and ready to advance on his house.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The dog was shot on his own property - the dog owner could care less about someone fleeing a bicycle citation. Dogs will instinctively protect their territory, especially from other dogs; the K9 likely did not identify itself as a LEO and was attacked for cause. Blaming the dog, or its owner, is not likely - you enter private property uninvited at your own risk.
    Dogs have no rights. Anyone can kill your dog and get away with it....not just police. Don't ask me how I know.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    How do you know that? It isn't in the article. Source?
    My source is having lived in cities for years. News and police helicopters constantly in the air is perfectly normal.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Many facilities have guard dogs to secure the property. Many people expect their personal dog to to secure them against an uninvited stranger invading their fenced property. The police had no legitimate need to trespass on that property, they should have gotten the owner's permission and he could have secured the dog. If they were chasing a known violent offender it might have been legitimate, but it wasn't in this case. There were a dozen different ways the dog's death could have been avoided without endangering public safety if better procedures were used. It sounds like these Keystone cops were bored and looking for an adventure.
    The cop had a valid reason to be on the property. Keep your dog under control or it's going to die and you're getting sued.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Then 'no one' should own a dog.
    Let me know when you come back to planet Earth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    The police can have legitimate reasons to enter your property that do not involve you committing a crime. These reasons can include:

    - Making an inquiry as to whether or not you are a witness to an event.
    - Assisting municipal workers (meter readers etc) who have expressed fears about being attacked by your dogs.


    Jerry said it best: Unless you are being attacked, it is going to be hard to claim that the dogs were "defending you". In short, if you cant control your dogs, you risk alot.
    If it's not an emergency, they have no right to shoot my dogs. they can wait, contact me, come back another time, etc.

    Dogs defend property/territory. It's their nature, their job. And it's what many people want them to do.

    And utility workers have a key to my gate lock and know my dogs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Let me know when you come back to planet Earth.
    I never left.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    If it's not an emergency, they have no right to shoot my dogs. they can wait, contact me, come back another time, etc.

    Dogs defend property/territory. It's their nature, their job. And it's what many people want them to do.

    And utility workers have a key to my gate lock and know my dogs.
    Perusing a criminal is an emergency. The only kind of person who flees from the cops over something so lame is a person with active warrants. If your dog aggressively approaches a cop, that cop is fully justified in shooting your dog.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    This is what I don't get; there are major things going on in our country and the world right now, and gay marriage and dead dogs are what draw the most debate here. To be quite honest, who cares? There are way more important issues than gays marrying each other and dogs dying people, get a grip.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    This is what I don't get; there are major things going on in our country and the world right now, and gay marriage and dead dogs are what draw the most debate here. To be quite honest, who cares? There are way more important issues than gays marrying each other and dogs dying people, get a grip.
    It's what people relate to the most.

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