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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    This incident happened in a city.


    That's no excuse. Keep your dog under control or its going to die and you're getting sued.
    Exactly...

    Police (and police dogs,) lives matter......

    They matter more than your life. They matter more than my life. They matter more than right. They matter more than wrong. Compared to the police, all other life is insignificant.

    On your knees bitches! Serve your masters! They can kill you because their life matters more than yours. Get that in your head and get the **** in line.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Exactly...

    Police (and police dogs,) lives matter......

    They matter more than your life. They matter more than my life. They matter more than right. They matter more than wrong. Compared to the police, all other life is insignificant.

    On your knees bitches! Serve your masters! They can kill you because their life matters more than yours. Get that in your head and get the **** in line.
    A policeman's life matters more than your pet's life, yup

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    A policeman's life matters more than your pet's life, yup
    Their dog's lives, running through my yard, also matters more than my dog's life, who is in my own yard, defending what he is bred to defend.

    Hypothetically, imagine this.

    What if, someone busts down the door to your bedroom, in the middle of the night, and you put two rounds right between their eyes. You turn on the lights only to find that person was a uniformed police officer. With the flip of a switch you just went from a legal property owner defending his life and property, to a low-down cop killer. What if the cop killed you instead, when you sprang out of bed reaching for you gun? He's gonna walk, scott-free and we both know it.

    Point being, dogs don't distinguish or recognize the "police authority," of another police dog. And, right or wrong, if someone or some animal attacks a cop's dog, the cop will always defend their dog FIRST.

    I admit it is a predicament. The proverbial rock and hard place. But if a dog came in my yard, and my dog defended his domain, and the owner of the offending dog killed my dog for doing what my dog supposed to do. We're gonna have BIG problems. Cop or not. Now jerry, you KNOW I admire and respect the men and women in blue. I usually side with them 99% of the time. Nobody can rightfully accuse me of ever being a "cop hater." But, there is a problem We have to admit it. We need to address it.
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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    A policeman's life matters more than your pet's life, yup
    That's all well and good.

    A police dog's life also matters more than your life, (or mine.)

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Owning a dog that will attack people is a hazard and thus not permissible rather you're around or not.
    If that was the law there would be no guard dogs.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    1. You don't know why the man on the bike ran, do you?

    2. So, it's fine with you to put police at a disadvantage. That's all we need know about your position.

    3. Calling off high speed car chases is meant to protect a driving public that largely are oblivious when they drive. Tell us what person is in danger in a foot pursuit.
    Someone's pet was put in danger, that is enough reason not to pursue someone guilty of a traffic infraction by trespassing on someone's residential property. Pets lives have a lot of value to their owners that is akin to their feelings for a family member. One person here said she would kill or die to protect her dog, an indication of the deep bond people have with their pets.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Or a child molester, armed robber, or murderer...how would you know?
    No one knew at the time but there was no reason to assume the person was dangerous. In fact, the fact that the bicyclist fled rather than attack the police is an indication that he was probably not a danger to the public. Again, that dog's life was not worth sacrificing for the extremely slim possibility that the bicyclist was dangerous.
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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Cant it be possible that SOMETIMES there just really arent any 'bad guys' in a particular story? It doesnt sound like the owner was a bad guy. Sounds like he had a dog and an invisible fence and unless Im missing something, he didnt own a killer dog. The dog doesnt sound like a rabid threat to humankind...he was just a dog, doing what dogs by instinct do. He wasnt roaming the neighborhood mauling small children. The cop that shot the dog was defending a K9 unit. What...he wasnt supposed to do that?

    Its a ****ty set of circumstances that SOMETIMES happens.
    They should have not initiated a search involving helicopters and K9 units invading people's yards without notification for something as inconsequential as a bicyclist running away from cops. It was almost inevitable that they would encounter dogs in people's yards that would threaten their dog. They had no reason to assume the bicyclist was dangerous to the public. It was a stupid and terrible decision that will cost the town money settling the lawsuit and increases hostility towards the police.

    This incident may be a symptom of the increased militarization of the police that the federal government encourages with grants and gifts of surplus military equipment. Those policies encourage the local Barney Fife's to go commando and pull out all the stops and endanger the public to chase a bicyclist that ran a stop sign.
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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    They should have not initiated a search involving helicopters and K9 units invading people's yards without notification for something as inconsequential as a bicyclist running away from cops. It was almost inevitable that they would encounter dogs in people's yards that would threaten their dog. They had no reason to assume the bicyclist was dangerous to the public. It was a stupid and terrible decision that will cost the town money settling the lawsuit and increases hostility towards the police.

    This incident may be a symptom of the increased militarization of the police that the federal government encourages with grants and gifts of surplus military equipment. Those policies encourage the local Barney Fife's to go commando and pull out all the stops and endanger the public to chase a bicyclist that ran a stop sign.
    It may very well be that there wasn't a need to chase after him. Some states have changed their LE policy to cease auto chases. Maybe this is a really good opportunity to address their community policing policies.

    Your ridiculous foray into the military policing notwithstanding....your initial point actually is valid.

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    Re: Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    If that was the law there would be no guard dogs.
    Actual guard dogs, meaning professionaly trained, are fine because while they may make alot of noise they won't actually attack untill given the command.

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