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    Re: With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Really? Another Bush, possibly another Clinton? What has happened to this great nation? Is this the best out of all the people in this country we can do? Or are we just subjects to a ruling class elite who could give a **** about you or me?


    Sad reality is, there are those cheering for these royals and thier race for power.
    I think both Bush and Clinton are great candidates who would make thoroughly competent Presidents, I'm also pleased that we don't have another Obama-esque candidate on the horizon. I prefer Bush or Christie to Clinton but if my party were to nominate some of the more dangerous candidates like Cruz or Paul I'd probably back Clinton.

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    Re: With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think on the "numbers" side of things, Demo's are absolutely praying for a Jeb Bush nomination.
    I don't think so. If one looks at the electoral college which I divide into Democratic Trustworthy states, state that have gone Democratic in each of the last 4 presidential elections by at least 5 percentage points, that comes out to 247 electoral votes. On the Republicans side using the same criteria, they end up with 191 electoral votes. That leaves 8 states in the tossup/swing column. Florida 29, Ohio 18, North Carolina 15, Virginia 13, Colorado 9, Iowa 6, Nevada 6 and New Hampshire 4 for a total of 100 electoral votes.

    Florida is a must win for the Republicans as its 29 electoral votes would put the Democratic nominee over the 270 mar by winning only that one state out of the eight. Jeb Bush can deliver Florida which would cut the Republican deficit to 247-220.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think on the "numbers" side of things, Demo's are absolutely praying for a Jeb Bush nomination.
    I think we have an incredibly difficult electoral map to navigate in 2016 regardless of the candidate. But I haven't read anything that leads me to believe Bush would negatively affect that map in a meaningful way anymore than a similar candidate like Christie would.

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    Re: With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't think so. If one looks at the electoral college which I divide into Democratic Trustworthy states, state that have gone Democratic in each of the last 4 presidential elections by at least 5 percentage points, that comes out to 247 electoral votes. On the Republicans side using the same criteria, they end up with 191 electoral votes. That leaves 8 states in the tossup/swing column. Florida 29, Ohio 18, North Carolina 15, Virginia 13, Colorado 9, Iowa 6, Nevada 6 and New Hampshire 4 for a total of 100 electoral votes.

    Florida is a must win for the Republicans as its 29 electoral votes would put the Democratic nominee over the 270 mar by winning only that one state out of the eight. Jeb Bush can deliver Florida which would cut the Republican deficit to 247-220.
    You know, Pero, I read somewhere recently that not only are the voters mostly ignored by both Houses of Congress - until election time when they suddenly remember us again - we don't even really elect the President, the Electoral College does! Isn't it sad that all we're needed for is our tax money - they give gold-diggers a bad name! I understand why the compromise was made way back when - they were afraid the voters might elect a bumpkin that would make America look bad in the eyes of the world if it was left entirely to them - but I've got news for them! Their plan didn't turn out to be foolproof either and I have history on my side as proof! :

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    Re: With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Really? Another Bush, possibly another Clinton? What has happened to this great nation? Is this the best out of all the people in this country we can do? Or are we just subjects to a ruling class elite who could give a **** about you or me?


    Sad reality is, there are those cheering for these royals and thier race for power.
    jeb bush is vastly out of line with the other members of the bush dynasty,but just his name will hurt him greatly.

    sad part is even with the bush name,he could very easily win 2016,just by exploiting peoples distrust of the current party in the white house,hence why we very rarely see nowadays any party ,longer than 8 years as president.
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    Re: With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Romney will stay out if Jeb gets in.
    but that is like asking if you'd rather have syphillis or gonorrhea.
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    Re: With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I think we have an incredibly difficult electoral map to navigate in 2016 regardless of the candidate. But I haven't read anything that leads me to believe Bush would negatively affect that map in a meaningful way anymore than a similar candidate like Christie would.
    As Pero has pointed out, a Jeb/Kasich ticket would put the GOP in strong position to take both Florida and Ohio.
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    Re: With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    You know, Pero, I read somewhere recently that not only are the voters mostly ignored by both Houses of Congress - until election time when they suddenly remember us again - we don't even really elect the President, the Electoral College does! Isn't it sad that all we're needed for is our tax money - they give gold-diggers a bad name! I understand why the compromise was made way back when - they were afraid the voters might elect a bumpkin that would make America look bad in the eyes of the world if it was left entirely to them - but I've got news for them! Their plan didn't turn out to be foolproof either and I have history on my side as proof! :
    I was an elector for Ross Perot back in 1996 for Georgia. He didn't win Georgia so I never got to cast my one electoral vote for him. What you do when you vote is you're actually voting for a slate of electors, not the presidential candidates themselves. This being a nation of several states, it is each state votes for the president. How each state determines their electors was left to the individual states. There is no requirement for you to vote, your state legislatures could decide whom to cast Ohio's electoral votes if they so wished.

    In fact as late as 1860 the South Carolina state legislature decided whom to cast that states electoral votes for. Not the people. As for being ignored by congress, that is because each party pushes their agenda until they need the peoples votes and then they start to listen to them. But only until after the election and then it is back to the parties agenda.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Really? Another Bush, possibly another Clinton? What has happened to this great nation? Is this the best out of all the people in this country we can do? Or are we just subjects to a ruling class elite who could give a **** about you or me?


    Sad reality is, there are those cheering for these royals and thier race for power.
    I think the brits got it right. have royalty and then have your government. I totally think this nation is in awe of royalty which is the way we treat hollywood celebs and apparently we want some kind of bloodline ties in our leadership. It's kind of gross.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I think the brits got it right. have royalty and then have your government. I totally think this nation is in awe of royalty which is the way we treat hollywood celebs and apparently we want some kind of bloodline ties in our leadership. It's kind of gross.


    When that royal couple or whoever came to nyc, they swooned, reporters and cameramen had to wear slacks and shoes, etc. I would have thrown ****ing tomatoes.
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