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Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

I just posted a handful of charts showing the system abuses black people. Assuming that blacks and whites are equal genetically, and have equal opportunity in our system, the numbers should look equal.

Those numbers are grossly unequal. That's systemic abuse.

Why is it libs can look at a set of statistical data, and pour what ever meaning they wish into them, without a shred of substantiating evidence? Just because the numbers are not equal, doesn't necessarily indicate, "systemic abuse".
 
What is absurd is that guns are only used to kill things. Simply not true It isn't true of cars either. Sorry, sea lawyer.

Of course it can be used for many other purposes such as scaring away wild animals, warning someone else, intimidation, and so on but the main purpose is to kill. Even then it's undeniable that your analogy doesn't work. For it to work you must prove (just off the top of my head):
1) The purposes of cars and guns are the same
2) The impact of banning guns and cars are the same

Since it is impossible to prove even one of the above, your analogy fails. Nice deflection though, cherry-picking only one part of my post and pretending that it's the only point in the post.
 
The system isn't the problem, unless you're claiming that black folks are too animalistic to succeed in civilized society.
You didn't address the fact that the system may be the problem, you simply dismissed it.

People are the products of their environment. Demanding equality from people treated unequally is not a solution, it's simply continuing the same problem.
 
False analogy. Guns exist to kill people/animals/things (for beneficial or harmful purposes is another debate). Cars are a method of transportation and without them the modern society (especially in large countries such as China, US) would be severely negatively impacted. Civilian ownership of guns therefore cannot be possibly used as an analogy to cars. The analogy is simply ridiculous and it's very tiring hearing that crap over and over again. I'm somewhat divided and mostly indifferent about gun ownership but your analogy is just absurd.

Edit: BTW the OP isn't even about gun control. How thoughtful to bring up a totally irrelevant topic.
The analogy is valid, what is absurd is your mischaracterization of why guns "exist".
 
Why is it libs can look at a set of statistical data, and pour what ever meaning they wish into them, without a shred of substantiating evidence? Just because the numbers are not equal, doesn't necessarily indicate, "systemic abuse".

It's the only way they can make an argument. They have to avoid the facts as much as possible.
 
Why is it libs can look at a set of statistical data, and pour what ever meaning they wish into them, without a shred of substantiating evidence? Just because the numbers are not equal, doesn't necessarily indicate, "systemic abuse".
You can either blame genetics or environment. Environment is a product of our system, that's the one that seems obvious to me. If we can accept that it's not genetic, then we're both on the same page of looking for systemic reforms to improve the opportunity of all citizens to live peaceful, productive lives.
 
There are 8 black, female millionares in the world. All of them are American. Colin Powell was secretary of state. Condelizza Rice was secretary of defense. Barack Obama is president. Eric Holder is the AG. Those facts cancel out your claims.

The fact is, black people have no fewer rights and no less access to The American Dream than anyome else. There are literally millions of black Americans who have a good job--not minimum wage--and have never been to jail, to claim that black folks can't succeed in America.

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You can either blame genetics or environment. Environment is a product of our system, that's the one that seems obvious to me. If we can accept that it's not genetic, then we're both on the same page of looking for systemic reforms to improve the opportunity of all citizens to live peaceful, productive lives.

You can also blame propaganda. Example: we never hear Libbos say that black folks can succeed if they try hard enough.
 
Modern society couldn't exist without knive, either, but there are places where knives are heavily regulated.

Oh? Where? (Genuinely curious).

My guess is that it would be knives used as weapons such as swords and military-use knives. Ordinary knives such as cutter knives and kitchen knives that have everyday uses won't be.
 
You can also blame propaganda. Example: we never hear Libbos say that black folks can succeed if they try hard enough.

So you're concluding that it's a lack of positive reinforcement by liberals that's the problem and not the lack of wealth, the insanely higher incarceration rates, the lower quality education access, etc?
 
You can either blame genetics or environment. Environment is a product of our system, that's the one that seems obvious to me. If we can accept that it's not genetic, then we're both on the same page of looking for systemic reforms to improve the opportunity of all citizens to live peaceful, productive lives.

Wow, what a glaring and shallow, false dichotomy.
 
To ignite a propellant, and project a bullet down range.

That is the mechanism of guns although you are correct. So do tell, what does one usually hope to accomplish through firing such a projectile? What is the most common use of a projectile or a gun for that matter? Cars probably kill more people than civilian usage of guns, sure, but the purposes of each and the impact of banning them are intrinsically different that drawing an analogy between them is ridiculous.
 
How do you explain away all the successful black folks in America, who represent a majority of black Americans?

I'll repost the chart I posted earlier for you, since you clearly missed it, forgot about it, or misunderstood it:

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That's the difference between wealth in white households and black households. That data includes all those successful black folks, and all those successful white folks.
 
Wow, what a glaring and shallow, false dichotomy.
I disagree it's a false dichotomy. There's nothing else besides nature and nurture to draw from. Nothing.

Nowhere.

None.

Zippo.

Nada.




Zilch.

Feel free to provide alternatives to nature and nurture, or to continue providing fun synonyms for "none" with me.:mrgreen:
 
I'll repost the chart I posted earlier for you, since you clearly missed it, forgot about it, or misunderstood it:

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That's the difference between wealth in white households and black households. That data includes all those successful black folks, and all those successful white folks.

Ok, now show us the specific law(s) that creates that inequality.
 
So you're concluding that it's a lack of positive reinforcement by liberals that's the problem and not the lack of wealth, the insanely higher incarceration rates, the lower quality education access, etc?

That's exactly what I'm saying.
 
Ok, now show us the specific law(s) that creates that inequality.
The inheritance laws sustain and compound that household wealth inequality.

The access to quality public education sustain and compound that household wealth inequality.

Mandatory minimum sentencing laws sustain and compound that household wealth inequality.

Our drug laws sustain and compound that household wealth inequality.

Our criminal background check laws sustain and compound that household wealth inequality.

Our access to voting laws sustain and compound that household wealth inequality.

Our (lack of) gerrymandering laws sustain and compound household wealth inequality.

Etc. Etc. Etc.
 
The inheritance laws sustain and compound that household wealth inequality.

The access to quality public education sustain and compound that household wealth inequality.

Mandatory minimum sentencing laws sustain and compound that household wealth inequality.

Our drug laws sustain and compound that household wealth inequality.

Our criminal background check laws sustain and compound that household wealth inequality.

Our access to voting laws sustain and compound that household wealth inequality.

Our (lack of) gerrymandering laws sustain and compound household wealth inequality.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

In yhe text, how are those laws meant to inhibit the black community's ability to get ahead. And, how do you explain the majority of black folks in America that don't seem to be handicapped by those laws. And, this is the big one...why are black folks handicapped more by these laws than white folks?
 
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