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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    That is the mechanism of guns although you are correct. So do tell, what does one usually hope to accomplish through firing such a projectile? What is the most common use of a projectile or a gun for that matter? Cars probably kill more people than civilian usage of guns, sure, but the purposes of each and the impact of banning them are intrinsically different that drawing an analogy between them is ridiculous.
    Well, being that the overwhelming majority of gun owners and enthusiasts never kill anyone, or anything, how do you come to the conclusion that the main purpose of a gun is to kill? Most people who fire such projectiles, fire them into paper (or other material) targets. So, using your "logic" that must be the main purpose of a gun.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I disagree it's a false dichotomy. There's nothing else besides nature and nurture to draw from. Nothing.

    Nowhere.

    None.

    Zippo.

    Nada.




    Zilch.

    Feel free to provide alternatives to nature and nurture, or to continue providing fun synonyms for "none" with me.
    But the number of variables to "nurture" are countless. So, for you to conclude that high incarceration rates for blacks can only be due to "systemic abuse", is simplistic, at best.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Well, being that the overwhelming majority of gun owners and enthusiasts never kill anyone, or anything, how do you come to the conclusion that the main purpose of a gun is to kill? Most people who fire such projectiles, fire them into paper (or other material) targets. So, using your "logic" that must be the main purpose of a gun.
    I said "Kill people/animals/things". Sure most probably never killed a person and won't in the future but many probably did kill animals for sport/hunt and/or train for self-defense. You're just deflecting by attempting to prove other uses and I admit that those uses exist but that doesn't change the main purpose. Keep in mind we're only talking about civilian uses, if we include military and historical context, then my logic seems even more evident.
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I said "Kill people/animals/things". Sure most probably never killed a person and won't in the future but many probably did kill animals for sport/hunt and/or train for self-defense. You're just deflecting by attempting to prove other uses and I admit that those uses exist but that doesn't change the main purpose. Keep in mind we're only talking about civilian uses, if we include military and historical context, then my logic seems even more evident.
    Even gewer edged weapons will be used to kill a person--hell of a lot fewer--but, knives are heavily regulated.
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I said "Kill people/animals/things". Sure most probably never killed a person and won't in the future but many probably did kill animals for sport/hunt and/or train for self-defense. You're just deflecting by attempting to prove other uses and I admit that those uses exist but that doesn't change the main purpose. Keep in mind we're only talking about civilian uses, if we include military and historical context, then my logic seems even more evident.
    Actually it is you deflecting, and trying in vain to foist your opinion about the main purpose of guns on everyone. "Many", does not equal "majority". And training for self defense does not in any way, shape, or form equal "killing things". Remember those paper target thingies I mentioned earlier?

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Actually it is you deflecting, and trying in vain to foist your opinion about the main purpose of guns on everyone. "Many", does not equal "majority". And training for self defense does not in any way, shape, or form equal "killing things". Remember those paper target thingies I mentioned earlier?
    Let me get back to you after some sleep. It's 2:50am where I am so I need to catch a couple of hours of sleep. Good day to you.
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    New headline:

    White dude threatens cops, tries to run over them, gets killed. This sparks debate over race relations and gun control on DP.
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Let me get back to you after some sleep. It's 2:50am where I am so I need to catch a couple of hours of sleep. Good day to you.
    Sounds good. Sleep well.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    New headline:

    White dude threatens cops, tries to run over them, gets killed. This sparks debate over race relations and gun control on DP.
    Lol, sounds about right.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    But the number of variables to "nurture" are countless. So, for you to conclude that high incarceration rates for blacks can only be due to "systemic abuse", is simplistic, at best.
    They come down to society ultimately. We determine the foods that we eat, the shows we watch, the schools we build and staff, the resources available for success, the distribution of income, the values we support, etc.

    The failing of the individual is the failing of the society. The failing of the group is the failing of the society.

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