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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Society can't rectify individuals shortcomings. There aren't a bunch of welfare queens with 9 different baby-daddy's because of society, guy.
    B.S. Society is a rectification of shortcomings. No person enters society educated, trained, capable of communicating, with access to technology, infrastructure, etc.

    Everything a person becomes is a product of society. The language you speak, the education you have, the safety you've experienced, the people you have access to. Etc.

    For good and bad, it's society that's shaped every aspect of your life and theirs.
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    B.S. Society is a rectification of shortcomings. No person enters society educated, trained, capable of communicating, with access to technology, infrastructure, etc.

    Everything a person becomes is a product of society. The language you speak, the education you have, the safety you've experienced, the people you have access to. Etc.

    For good and bad, it's society that's shaped every aspect of your life and theirs.
    As a leftist, I think its natural for you to underestimate the responsibility of the individual.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    You can make this a semantic circle jerk all you want.

    Fact is that tactically all most cops have is a hammer so they necessarily see every problem as a nail.

    Due to a little thought policing (understand that he made no specific, credible threat, just spouted off generally on the Internet a little) they identified this guy as a potential criminal and went after him like he was an existential threat to the future of America.

    If the idiots had actually put any thought at all into what they were doing they would have easily identified this guy as a very mentally sick person and addressed the situation from a medical perspective.

    Instead they rallied up the SWAT team in preparation for serving a no-knock warrant and while the "operators" were masturbating over the thought of blasting in of this guy's door at 0300, the guy decided to go out for a drive.

    The cops saw their opportunity to act like jack booted thugs going up in smoke they took the show on the road.

    Now, I won't pretend to know the absolute best way to deal with that situation, but as an educated and generally pretty intelligent person I can surmise that there have to be better options than the route they went.

    Like, they could have maybe stopped him while he was walking down the street, brought some paramedics along with them, and approached him/the situation as being one of medical concern, rather than acting like it was the second raid on Abbottabad.
    The more I think about this post the more dumbfounded I am.

    I worked in law enforcement for 7 years. During that time I served many mental commitment papers on people as a part of my work in Patrol.

    You are extremely naive if you think for a second that someone isn't going to put up resistance to being detained if you change the name from arrest to commitment.

    We had to use force several times while serving commitment papers on people. It makes no difference what the title of the detention is called, it is the fact that one is being DETAINED in the first place.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Because it would make leftists feel better about themselves.
    I am mostly left-leaning.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I am mostly left-leaning.
    So you know how your fellow lefties think, am I right?

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I didn't intend to give the impression I thought the cops were wrong, no.
    While he may not have been under mental care, he certainly should have been, as his actions attest. Do his actions look to you like someone well balanced mentally?
    His actions look like someone desperate to avoid arrest, and caring not whom he hurts to do so, in which case the police acted correctly, and this is NOT news as ot happens every day in thos country.
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    His actions look like someone desperate to avoid arrest, and caring not whom he hurts to do so, in which case the police acted correctly, and this is NOT news as ot happens every day in thos country.
    People threaten to kill the police every day? Now, that's a sad commentary, isn't it?
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    So you know how your fellow lefties think, am I right?
    No, I dont assume I know how other people think no matter what *other people* call them or they call themselves.

    If you tried to do so about me, for example, you'd be wrong on many fronts. That applies to the majority of people. Extremists locked into a singular and rigid mindset are the minority fortunately

    *takes off school marm cap*
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No, I dont assume I know how other people think no matter what *other people* call them or they call themselves.

    If you tried to do so about me, for example, you'd be wrong on many fronts. That applies to the majority of people. Extremists locked into a singular and rigid mindset are the minority fortunately

    *takes off school marm cap*
    I dont recall saying anything about assumptions.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont recall saying anything about assumptions.
    You seemed to assume I knew how other 'lefties' (your word) think.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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