Page 23 of 61 FirstFirst ... 13212223242533 ... LastLast
Results 221 to 230 of 604

Thread: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

  1. #221
    Sage
    Dittohead not!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The Golden State
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    41,505

    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Seems maybe you have forgotten also...

    Here read this from the OP...

    "WTXF reported that police had identified the man as Joseph Pacini, 52, of Clifton Heights, Pa. Authorities said that Pacini had posted a video on social media threatening to kill police and FBI agents. The station reported that police had obtained an arrest warrant in relation to the threats and SWAT teams were en route to Pacini's apartment to serve it when he left in his car at around 4 p.m. local time.

    Upper Darby Police Superintendent Michael Chitwood said that officers stopped Pacini at an intersection in the town and ordered him out of his car. Instead of complying, Pacini backed into the Clifton Heights police chief's car and then prepared to run over other officers.

    Chitwood said the officers feared Pacini would kill them and they "did what they had to do." He said five officers fired at the man and no officers were injured. Pacini did not fire at police, and Chitwood said he did not know if the man had a weapon. The officers involved in the shooting are being interviewed by the local District Attorney's office and the incident is still under investigation."

    Pennsylvania police kill man whom they say tried to run them over | Fox News

    This wasn't a "white nutter" as you describe him, nor is it "alleged".... You have that backwards...Pacini is dead BECAUSE of the actions he took trying to run over cops when they tried to effect an arrest warrant on him. That is a fact. What you are trying to do is place scrutiny on the police by flipping the tables as if they were the ones in the wrong....
    Not at all. Firstly, any crime is "alleged" until there has been a jury trial. Secondly, what in the above shows Pacini to be anything but a white nutter? I don't see any mention of race, but his picture looks like a white guy to me. If he wasn't a nutter, then why did he threaten the cops and allegedly try to run them over?

    And, if we're now discussing black/white issues, aren't we way off of the subject?
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

  2. #222
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,272

    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Not at all. Firstly, any crime is "alleged" until there has been a jury trial. Secondly, what in the above shows Pacini to be anything but a white nutter? I don't see any mention of race, but his picture looks like a white guy to me. If he wasn't a nutter, then why did he threaten the cops and allegedly try to run them over?

    And, if we're now discussing black/white issues, aren't we way off of the subject?
    Taking the actions that Pacini took aren't that of a mentally ill person, but rather that of a criminal trying to allude arrest. His mental state is debatable...Do you have any evidence that Pacini was under mental care? Also, your sentence structure that I responded to seems to point to something that you think police did wrong in that situation, is that the case in your mind? And what do you think they should have done differently?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  3. #223
    Sage
    Lursa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Outside Seattle
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,662

    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    You can make this a semantic circle jerk all you want.

    Fact is that tactically all most cops have is a hammer so they necessarily see every problem as a nail.

    Due to a little thought policing (understand that he made no specific, credible threat, just spouted off generally on the Internet a little) they identified this guy as a potential criminal and went after him like he was an existential threat to the future of America.

    If the idiots had actually put any thought at all into what they were doing they would have easily identified this guy as a very mentally sick person and addressed the situation from a medical perspective.

    Instead they rallied up the SWAT team in preparation for serving a no-knock warrant and while the "operators" were masturbating over the thought of blasting in of this guy's door at 0300, the guy decided to go out for a drive.

    The cops saw their opportunity to act like jack booted thugs going up in smoke they took the show on the road.

    Now, I won't pretend to know the absolute best way to deal with that situation, but as an educated and generally pretty intelligent person I can surmise that there have to be better options than the route they went.

    Like, they could have maybe stopped him while he was walking down the street, brought some paramedics along with them, and approached him/the situation as being one of medical concern, rather than acting like it was the second raid on Abbottabad.
    ?? A better way? That did not put the officers or the public at more risk? Certainly their safety was more important than a man who had *made threats* and was in control of a lethal weapon and had already used THAT to threaten officers.

    If he had succeeded in leaving the area, he would have continued to be a danger to the next officers who attempted to arrest him and any innocent bystanders he crossed paths/streets with.

    Why on EARTH should the cops place themselves and the public at more risk than a proven threat?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

  4. #224
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 07:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I can't find any stats on unemployment of blacks back before the war on poverty, but I'm sure that black unemployment is a lot higher than that of whites today. Yes, that's no doubt because of cultural differences. If it's due to discrimination in the workplace, then logic dictates that fewer blacks should be unemployed today, fifty years after the civil rights act.

    I'm also quite sure we're way off the subject of a white nutter having (allegedly) tried to run over cops and having been shot for his troubles.
    In deference to the thread topic I wont discuss it further but blacks had lower unemployment before the war on poverty.

  5. #225
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 07:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    The two are linked: the individual dependent on the collective and the collective dependent on the individual.

    You're asking the individual to shoulder the burden of a collective issue.
    No, Im asking the individual to rectify an individual issue. Without it he's nothing but a drain on society.

  6. #226
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 07:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Not at all. Firstly, any crime is "alleged" until there has been a jury trial.
    Thats if it goes to trial. This wont, unless the dead thugs family wants to bring a civil case-and I doubt they will.

  7. #227
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 07:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Why on EARTH should the cops place themselves and the public at more risk than a proven threat?
    Because it would make leftists feel better about themselves.

  8. #228
    Undisclosed
    Unrepresented's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    San Diego
    Last Seen
    06-12-16 @ 09:05 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,230

    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    No, Im asking the individual to rectify an individual issue. Without it he's nothing but a drain on society.
    If society has created an inefficient system, society should rectify that inefficiency.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

  9. #229
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 07:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    If society has created an inefficient system, society should rectify that inefficiency.
    Society can't rectify individuals shortcomings. There aren't a bunch of welfare queens with 9 different baby-daddy's because of society, guy.

  10. #230
    Sage
    Dittohead not!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The Golden State
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    41,505

    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Taking the actions that Pacini took aren't that of a mentally ill person, but rather that of a criminal trying to allude arrest. His mental state is debatable...Do you have any evidence that Pacini was under mental care? Also, your sentence structure that I responded to seems to point to something that you think police did wrong in that situation, is that the case in your mind? And what do you think they should have done differently?
    I didn't intend to give the impression I thought the cops were wrong, no.
    While he may not have been under mental care, he certainly should have been, as his actions attest. Do his actions look to you like someone well balanced mentally?
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

Page 23 of 61 FirstFirst ... 13212223242533 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •