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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

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    Collective responsibility originates with the individual.
    You can't have collective responsibility without individual responsibility. That house wont stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You can't have collective responsibility without individual responsibility. That house wont stand.
    Why should a minority of the population have to individually shoulder the collective responsibility?
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Why should a minority of the population have to individually shoulder the collective responsibility?
    You seem to think collective means individual. Thats not what Im talking about-nothing will change until these people step up.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    You can make this a semantic circle jerk all you want.

    Fact is that tactically all most cops have is a hammer so they necessarily see every problem as a nail.

    Due to a little thought policing (understand that he made no specific, credible threat, just spouted off generally on the Internet a little) they identified this guy as a potential criminal and went after him like he was an existential threat to the future of America.

    If the idiots had actually put any thought at all into what they were doing they would have easily identified this guy as a very mentally sick person and addressed the situation from a medical perspective.

    Instead they rallied up the SWAT team in preparation for serving a no-knock warrant and while the "operators" were masturbating over the thought of blasting in of this guy's door at 0300, the guy decided to go out for a drive.

    The cops saw their opportunity to act like jack booted thugs going up in smoke they took the show on the road.

    Now, I won't pretend to know the absolute best way to deal with that situation, but as an educated and generally pretty intelligent person I can surmise that there have to be better options than the route they went.

    Like, they could have maybe stopped him while he was walking down the street, brought some paramedics along with them, and approached him/the situation as being one of medical concern, rather than acting like it was the second raid on Abbottabad.
    As I said....


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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im sure. And I'd speculate because of cultural differences.
    I can't find any stats on unemployment of blacks back before the war on poverty, but I'm sure that black unemployment is a lot higher than that of whites today. Yes, that's no doubt because of cultural differences. If it's due to discrimination in the workplace, then logic dictates that fewer blacks should be unemployed today, fifty years after the civil rights act.

    I'm also quite sure we're way off the subject of a white nutter having (allegedly) tried to run over cops and having been shot for his troubles.
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You seem to think collective means individual. Thats not what Im talking about-nothing will change until these people step up.
    The two are linked: the individual dependent on the collective and the collective dependent on the individual.

    You're asking the individual to shoulder the burden of a collective issue.
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    The two are linked: the individual dependent on the collective and the collective dependent on the individual.

    You're asking the individual to shoulder the burden of a collective issue.
    but what makes it a collective issue?
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    but what makes it a collective issue?
    We don't like poverty. We don't like instability. We don't like crime. We don't like law enforcement being killed. We don't like civilians being killed by law enforcement. We don't like schools failing our students. We don't like racism. We don't like looking racist. We don't want to limit social mobility to platitudes. We don't like having the world's highest percentage of our population in prison. Etc.

    The idea that this isn't a collective issue is like the idea of being diagnosed with cancer and responding to it with "that's not me, that's just my lung."

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm also quite sure we're way off the subject of a white nutter having (allegedly) tried to run over cops and having been shot for his troubles.
    Seems maybe you have forgotten also...

    Here read this from the OP...

    "WTXF reported that police had identified the man as Joseph Pacini, 52, of Clifton Heights, Pa. Authorities said that Pacini had posted a video on social media threatening to kill police and FBI agents. The station reported that police had obtained an arrest warrant in relation to the threats and SWAT teams were en route to Pacini's apartment to serve it when he left in his car at around 4 p.m. local time.

    Upper Darby Police Superintendent Michael Chitwood said that officers stopped Pacini at an intersection in the town and ordered him out of his car. Instead of complying, Pacini backed into the Clifton Heights police chief's car and then prepared to run over other officers.

    Chitwood said the officers feared Pacini would kill them and they "did what they had to do." He said five officers fired at the man and no officers were injured. Pacini did not fire at police, and Chitwood said he did not know if the man had a weapon. The officers involved in the shooting are being interviewed by the local District Attorney's office and the incident is still under investigation."

    Pennsylvania police kill man whom they say tried to run them over | Fox News

    This wasn't a "white nutter" as you describe him, nor is it "alleged".... You have that backwards...Pacini is dead BECAUSE of the actions he took trying to run over cops when they tried to effect an arrest warrant on him. That is a fact. What you are trying to do is place scrutiny on the police by flipping the tables as if they were the ones in the wrong....
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