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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    46% of employees who identify as democrats does not equate to "democrat controlled."

    Bureaucracies are controlled by elected officials and state law. The highest state office has been a republican for years now.
    Is this your first day? Power takes care of itself-now which is the party of big govt? Try real hard.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

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    If you took those people out of the ghetto and put them in Beverly Hills in 6 months it would look like south central.

    Its the mentality, not the location. Plenty of people do well even if they have to live in the ghetto.
    A) that's offensive

    B) that's not what I've argued

    This is a systemic, societal level problem. It will involve more changes than a street address to correct hundreds of years of inequality.
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    A) that's offensive

    B) that's not what I've argued

    This is a systemic, societal level problem. It will involve more changes than a street address to correct hundreds of years of inequality.
    Even if its offensive its true-part of the reason we are in this mess is because of trying to not be offensive when the truth very much is.

    If you want a serious discussion, you have to make serious observations. To fix this mess, people are going to be offended. Welcome to the world.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    If you took those people out of the ghetto and put them in Beverly Hills in 6 months it would look like south central.

    Its the mentality, not the location. Plenty of people do well even if they have to live in the ghetto.
    People in Beverly Hill have money and get educations.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    If you took those people out of the ghetto and put them in Beverly Hills in 6 months it would look like south central.

    Its the mentality, not the location. Plenty of people do well even if they have to live in the ghetto.
    Most also probably haven't faced generations of systematic abuse.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Is this your first day? Power takes care of itself-now which is the party of big govt? Try real hard.
    The conservative governor is the one trying to demand bodily fluids samples from his citizens.

    That's big government. It's not the numbers, it's the intrusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Even if its offensive its true-part of the reason we are in this mess is because of trying to not be offensive when the truth very much is.

    If you want a serious discussion, you have to make serious observations. To fix this mess, people are going to be offended. Welcome to the world.
    Being offensive in and of itself doesn't solve problems. Adding an offensive spin to standard conservative dogma just makes it more wrong and more offensive.
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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    People in Beverly Hill have money and get educations.
    True. And if you moved the entire population out and put in the ghetto's-it would look like the ghetto soon enough.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Most also probably haven't faced generations of systematic abuse.
    Pick up a history book, every culture has at some point. And yet the fact remains that if you can't demonstrate responsible behavior (drug use, no initiative, single parenthood, lack of respect of education) you will never extricate yourself from that.

    Note that this means the individual is responsible, not a politician.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    True. And if you moved the entire population out and put in the ghetto's-it would look like the ghetto soon enough.
    Well yeah, if you take a group of people and abuse them for generations, then ignore them and don't provide them with good educations, and make it difficult for them to get good jobs then they're probably not going to have a good time.

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Pick up a history book, every culture has at some point. And yet the fact remains that if you can't demonstrate responsible behavior (drug use, no initiative, single parenthood, lack of respect of education) you will never extricate yourself from that.

    Note that this means the individual is responsible, not a politician.
    Oh, and in history, did they immediately within one generation completely heal as a culture? I don't recall that.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I'm not necessarily arguing that they're each entirely a conspiracy to handicap blacks, but that's the effect. They limit opportunity for the poor (who are disproportionately black) and increase opportunity for the rich (who are disproportionately white).
    That's the only valid thing. Poor. Rich. Race has virtually nothing to do with it, in the biological sense. Historically black folks were brought here as slaves, but if instead yellow people had been brought here as slaves then their descendants would be facing the same gap.

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