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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Another case of police being attacked. But rest assured, the race baiting, cop hating, poverty pimps are not responsible in the least for stirring the pot. Thankfully, the perp was shot dead. Geez, I hope he wasn't black.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    That's almost a contribution to the thread.

    Because of a history of poverty, combined with a history of racism, a history of broken homes, and

    That's because:

    a) we still have the same problems.

    b) we still have the same causes to those problems because it hasn't been fixed.

    If we'd actually fixed the problems 150 years ago, we wouldn't be still struggling with them today. Alas, it's still ruining lives and making for a less pleasant world for everyone involved.
    Its interesting that you admit the lefts war on poverty etc hasn't worked but seem to think more of that solution somehow will.
    And many of these issues are more the result of the war on poverty than racism. I think you need to do some reading.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Only as much as I support the potential energy stored in a body to be released. There's been a systemic failure channeling buildup of discontent. This is merely a temporary release of some of that stored energy.
    So you said all that bull**** to say that you support killing police... just ****ing admit to it.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I just posted a handful of charts showing the system abuses black people. Assuming that blacks and whites are equal genetically, and have equal opportunity in our system, the numbers should look equal.

    Those numbers are grossly unequal. That's systemic abuse.
    How are you so sure that those numbers equal system abuse and not cultural differences? Like valuing progress and education, respect for authority, etc.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    You didn't address the fact that the system may be the problem, you simply dismissed it.

    People are the products of their environment. Demanding equality from people treated unequally is not a solution, it's simply continuing the same problem.
    And you haven't addressed the fact that culture may be the problem either.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    You can either blame genetics or environment. Environment is a product of our system, that's the one that seems obvious to me. If we can accept that it's not genetic, then we're both on the same page of looking for systemic reforms to improve the opportunity of all citizens to live peaceful, productive lives.
    So if you are Environment can also equal Culture.

    Nobody can force black people to turn their cultural values towards something different except black people.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    So you're concluding that it's a lack of positive reinforcement by liberals that's the problem and not the lack of wealth, the insanely higher incarceration rates, the lower quality education access, etc?
    Wealth has to be earned/gained/worked for. There is no "systemic" fix for that.
    Insanely higher incarceration rates are caused by insanely higher incidents of committing felonies.
    I keep hearing about this "lower quality education access", but the only problem I find is that teachers don't want to work where their work isn't valued. If I ever became a teacher... I wouldn't agree to work at an inner city school either. The culture of those attending those schools doesn't allow the vast majority to value education.... and then there are the safety concerns as well.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Of course it can be used for many other purposes such as scaring away wild animals, warning someone else, intimidation, and so on but the main purpose is to kill. Even then it's undeniable that your analogy doesn't work. For it to work you must prove (just off the top of my head):
    1) The purposes of cars and guns are the same
    2) The impact of banning guns and cars are the same

    Since it is impossible to prove even one of the above, your analogy fails. Nice deflection though, cherry-picking only one part of my post and pretending that it's the only point in the post.
    Apparently there is no room for humor in politics. By the way, even some Olympic sporting events involve shooting.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its interesting that you admit the lefts war on poverty etc hasn't worked but seem to think more of that solution somehow will.
    And many of these issues are more the result of the war on poverty than racism. I think you need to do some reading.
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    So you said all that bull**** to say that you support killing police... just ****ing admit to it.
    I don't endorse violence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    How are you so sure that those numbers equal system abuse and not cultural differences? Like valuing progress and education, respect for authority, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    And you haven't addressed the fact that culture may be the problem either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So if you are Environment can also equal Culture.

    Nobody can force black people to turn their cultural values towards something different except black people.
    Culture is a subset of environment, however, it's created by and with society.
    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Wealth has to be earned/gained/worked for. There is no "systemic" fix for that.
    Insanely higher incarceration rates are caused by insanely higher incidents of committing felonies.
    I keep hearing about this "lower quality education access", but the only problem I find is that teachers don't want to work where their work isn't valued. If I ever became a teacher... I wouldn't agree to work at an inner city school either. The culture of those attending those schools doesn't allow the vast majority to value education.... and then there are the safety concerns as well.
    "Their" culture is our culture. It's American culture. It's a product of American citizens and created by American ideas, products, and history.

    We built that.

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    Re: Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    You're like a broken washing machine: nothing but spin.

    I don't endorse violence.



    Culture is a subset of environment, however, it's created by and with society.

    "Their" culture is our culture. It's American culture. It's a product of American citizens and created by American ideas, products, and history.

    We built that.
    We didn't build ****. Its not society as a whole's responsibility to clean up the ghetto and make people in there suddenly know how to act right.

    When people in those neighborhoods start learning how to value education and success in civilized society instead of valuing "Being Hard" and the "Thug Life". When they start following the law rather than finding a way to break it at every step....

    If you think that these "laws" and "policies" created this..... I don't know how to discuss this with you.

    These laws and policies didn't create this thug life/don't give a **** about anybody but me attitude you are dead wrong.

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