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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I realize that, but, it is safer.
    No, you just deader in a worse case situation.

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    This is a very sad and unfortunate situation. I am all for 2nd Amendment rights, but more so for all the responsibilities that come with those rights, not to mention a common sense approach when it comes to carrying a deadly weapon.
    Kids and guns....hello. Most people can't control their kids in the best of circumstances, so what makes them think that a loaded weapon should be anywhere near them?
    I also don't understand what world we live in that makes us want to carry a weapon at all times, willing to shoot at anyone we perceive as threatening. I don't even know whom to fear more, a potential perpetrator or some gun lover with a nervous trigger finger. We can imagine being a hero, but are we?
    The premise of self defense is a basic human emotion.

    I don't have any delusions of being a hero - I simply want my family to be safe and left alone.

    I have no intent to shoot indiscriminately, but only to protect self, wife and kids.

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    This is a very sad and unfortunate situation. I am all for 2nd Amendment rights, but more so for all the responsibilities that come with those rights, not to mention a common sense approach when it comes to carrying a deadly weapon.
    Kids and guns....hello. Most people can't control their kids in the best of circumstances, so what makes them think that a loaded weapon should be anywhere near them?
    I also don't understand what world we live in that makes us want to carry a weapon at all times, willing to shoot at anyone we perceive as threatening. I don't even know whom to fear more, a potential perpetrator or some gun lover with a nervous trigger finger. We can imagine being a hero, but are we?


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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    What I want to know is that if the shooter will be charged with involuntary manslaughter?

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Oh My...Terrible story...Tragic....So let's gather the anti gun nuts, and take away everyone's gun.
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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by colourfastt View Post
    What I want to know is that if the shooter will be charged with involuntary manslaughter?
    The child was approached by LE, and complied with orders....The moral of the story? Even a two year old knows enough to "Drop the weapon!, get on the ground!"
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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    It's reported she had a CC permit, if that's the case, I wonder why she just didn't have it in a holster, wearing it on the hip-waist, and covered with a coat or sweater. I say this because I've seen a few people in stores doing it that way, it's obvious that a person is carrying though. Such a shame this happened.
    because like so many that have "mulled" through the required classes, she was complacent. and her fears were obviously misplaced..

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    IMO horrible accident, horrible mom
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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    May not have had a safety. Many don't. Its not unusual.
    there are many that are produced without the safety lever, instead the "safety" is built into the trigger asm., requiring that someone pull the trigger to allow the pin to release.. its like adding about 1/8" extra pull on the trigger.
    my last S&W .40 has this and i can understand how people have trouble with it..

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Mechanical safeties are an academic discussion. Guns don't have them anymore because they do little to improve safety and take time to take off under stress when you need your gun.

    As far as guns firing when dropped, all modern handguns have internal safeties that keep the firing pin away from the cartridge until the trigger is pulled, modern handguns, like post 1965, should not just go off from being dropped
    "should not" is a nice thought, but not that long ago a gun was dropped in a movie theater and went off.

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