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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

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    If the dude wanted to be factual, the chance of being shot at all, is less likely than being struck by lightning, unless you have a criminal record.... non criminal shootings are very very rare.
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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    It may take me an extra second or two to rack the slide to chamber the round......
    That's exactly why I carry with a round chambered.

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    It is a real shame indeed.

    CCW can be very difficult for women who do not wear belted pants and have nowhere to wear a good holster.

    I have never believed in off-body carry for a gun, as access and control are severely diminished.

    There is an excellent website called corneredcat.com written by a women that addresses CCW issues for women.
    Golly SMTA, think what might have happened if there were a purse snatcher in the store, holy jeez.

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    As was explained in the earlier identical thread in the gun forum, most new pistols being produced now do not have manual safeties.
    Which, and why not, and why have a round in the chamber? seems kind of stupid to me.

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    To put a face and a real idea who this mother was is this article from our local paper this morning.

    I must admit that when I first read it was a shooting of a mother in Wal Mart I visualized a totally different person. And I realize I am guilty as many here who like to group people into designated stereotypical groupings.

    A nuclear research scientist died Tuesday after her 2-year-old son pulled a loaded pistol from her purse and shot her while she was shopping at the Wal-Mart store in Hayden.

    The horrific accident quickly attracted international attention, with media outlets worldwide carrying the story of Veronica J. Rutledge’s death.

    Rutledge, a 29-year-old resident of Blackfoot, Idaho, died instantly.

    “She was a beautiful, young, loving mother who was taken much too soon,” said her father-in-law Terry Rutledge. “She was out on what was supposed to be a fun-filled day with her son and nieces.”

    Rutledge, an employee of the Idaho National Laboratory, was visiting family in Hayden with her husband, Colt. She had taken the children to Wal-Mart so they could spend their holiday gift cards. Her son, who was riding in a shopping cart, got a hold of the loaded pistol in her purse and shot her at 10:20 a.m. in the store’s electronics department.
    Toddler shoots, kills mother in North Idaho Wal-Mart - Spokesman.com - Dec. 31, 2014SRX_VERONICA_RUTLEDGE_t620.jpg

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    It's reported she had a CC permit, if that's the case, I wonder why she just didn't have it in a holster, wearing it on the hip-waist, and covered with a coat or sweater. I say this because I've seen a few people in stores doing it that way, it's obvious that a person is carrying though. Such a shame this happened.
    She was given a handbag that had a built in "holster" but was secured only by a zipper. She left the "holstered" handgun within easy reach of her child. Simply keeping control of the gun is impossible if you leave it in your shopping cart and walk away, even if only a few steps.

    The inside story of how an Idaho toddler shot his mom at Wal-Mart - The Washington Post
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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    This is not an accident. It is a result of idiocy. The idiocy is the act of carrying a gun about in a supermarket. The discharge of the weapon is an accident waiting to happen.

    Americans need to understand that this should be regarded as an unlawful killing. The responsibility was the stupid mothers so no action is required but it could have been anybody at the store that caught the bullet.

    If you have a gun then that gun is the one which is more likely to kill you than all the rest of them out there.
    Well, it was basically not following firearm safety rules,

    I was taught not to have a round in the chamber in semi auto pistols and rifles, or on any pistol or rifle for that matter, and to leave one cylinder empty on a revolver where the hammer is in the rest position to prevent accidental discharge,

    might be a good reason for people who want to own a firearm to attend classes to learn more than they think they might know.
    Last edited by AJiveMan; 12-31-14 at 09:00 AM.

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    good thing she had it with her, I hear Wal-Mart is a dangerous p0lace to be nowadays.
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