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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Hey, I'm British. I look at American gun culture and think you are all mad and seem to want to live in the wild west.
    Without our gun culture we'd probably still be British, too. Or, at least, our judges would be wearing wigs.
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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Terrible tragedy and very preventable.

    2 year olds are naturally curious and the weapon should have been secured a bit better

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Hey, I'm British. I look at American gun culture and think you are all mad and seem to want to live in the wild west.

    The absolute lowest limit for gun ownership should be 21 years old and having successfully completed a gun safety course which would be a demanding thing. Much harder than a driving test.

    Them it make s it easy to get the guns off the streets because you can arrest anybody with one and the half life for a gangster's gun is not all that long. They keep throwing them away and generally not looking after them.
    that's silly. and I remember Britain after WWI-lots of Brits got rid of their guns. They thought that would prevent another WW. It didn't. and with the Nazis threatening an invasion, the gunless Brits were afraid and asked US to help them out. My grandfather did-he sent several weapons to britain including a Springfield Rifle and a Mauser 98 he had taken as a war trophy in France Circa 1918. The Nazis never invaded but had they tried, Britain would have been much better prepared due to AMERICAN gun owners donating THOUSANDS OF VALUABLE weapons to our British friends



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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Hey, I'm British. I look at American gun culture and think you are all mad and seem to want to live in the wild west.

    The absolute lowest limit for gun ownership should be 21 years old and having successfully completed a gun safety course which would be a demanding thing. Much harder than a driving test.

    Them it make s it easy to get the guns off the streets because you can arrest anybody with one and the half life for a gangster's gun is not all that long. They keep throwing them away and generally not looking after them.
    what streets are you going to that guns are just laying there waiting to be taken off?

    If I ever find that street I'll be in heaven I'll tell you....
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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Hey, I'm British. I look at American gun culture and think you are all mad and seem to want to live in the wild west.

    The absolute lowest limit for gun ownership should be 21 years old and having successfully completed a gun safety course which would be a demanding thing. Much harder than a driving test.

    Them it make s it easy to get the guns off the streets because you can arrest anybody with one and the half life for a gangster's gun is not all that long. They keep throwing them away and generally not looking after them.
    you can have your opinion on our gun culture, but it's that, an opinion, and not a well educated one at that.

    in the united states the age of adulthood is 18. so by limiting all gun ownership to 21 you're depriving adults of fundamental civil rights. in addition in rural areas (of which we have some contigious rural/wilderness areas in our country larger then the entire landmass of your country) children often need to hunt or carry firearms to protect livestock or agricultural crops.

    and operating a firearm is much simpler then a car, and requires far less skill. so why should the test be harder?
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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Without our gun culture we'd probably still be British, too. Or, at least, our judges would be wearing wigs.
    I could never bring myself to worship a German lady...

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I could never bring myself to worship a German lady...
    We worship Colt, Remington, and Winchester and leave the Brits to worship the Germans.
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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    Surely you agree that the level of preparation is wildly different between a soldier or police officer and most moms.
    You would be surprised, civilians are often better trained than police and soldiers.

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    A manual safety would have prevented this specific tragedy.
    I see no reason to assume the child couldn't turn the saftey off.

    I feel like you're ok with a 2 year old handling a loaded firearm as long as the gun has a manual safety.

    The presence or absence of a manual safety isn't the issue. The gun being left where the 2 year old could get to it is the issue. No training class can make sure you never leave your gun in a bag and step away.

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    I know you like Glocks TD and that' fine I just personally think they are some of the worst guns made of all time. Everyday I become more and more a revolver man.
    Really curious to hear why you think Glocks are such bad guns.

    Personally there is no gun I would rather carry. I carried one on 2 combat deployments and it is my personal carry weapon. They are also the choice of tons of police and military units as well as competition shooters. They have done tortute tests that most other guns wouldn't have stood a chance in. The Glock pretty much changed the handgun world.

    What is it about them you hate.

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Hey, I'm British. I look at American gun culture and think you are all mad and seem to want to live in the wild west.
    The wild-west wasn't as wild as you think:
    Dispelling the myth of 'The Wild West' - Minneapolis gun rights | Examiner.com


    In his book, Frontier Violence: Another Look, author W. Eugene Hollon, provides us with these astonishing facts:

    • In Abilene, Ellsworth, Wichita, Dodge City, and Caldwell, for the years from 1870 to 1885, there were only 45 total homicides. This equates to a rate of approximately 1 murder per 100,000 residents per year.
    • In Abilene, supposedly one of the wildest of the cow towns, not a single person was killed in 1869 or 1870.


    Zooming forward over a century to 2007, a quick look at Uniform Crime Report statistics shows us the following regarding the aforementioned gun control “paradise” cities of the east:

    • DC – 183 Murders (31 per 100,000 residents)
    • New York – 494 Murders (6 per 100,000 residents)
    • Baltimore – 281 Murders (45 per 100,000 residents)
    • Newark – 104 Murders (37 per 100,000 residents)

    Do you think we own cars because we want to live on a race track? Do you think we own computers because we want to live in The Matrix? Do you think we invest money because we want to own banks?
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