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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I have seen video of someone texting while walking and falling in a canal!

    Here it is:

    You can cure ignorance with education but there's no cure for stupid. (That I know of.)
    Obviously we need to limit battery capacity so this doesn't happen to anyone else

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    The point being is that it was not JUST a zipper.. It was not a "mere zipper".. the gun was out of sight in a hidden pocket, she obviously wasn't far from the purse. etc.

    Point being is that child proof caps are often ineffective... so does that mean that according to you.. ANY child that gets their hands on prescription medication.. has stupid irresponsible parents?
    Preventing access begins by not placing the "contraband" within easy reach of the child (or pet). One does not have to be stupid to be irresponsible - common sense is not so common that mistakes are not made. My point, that you seem determined to "not get", is that by placing the super security purse, containing a "hidden" pocket, within easy reach of the child (that likely knew exactly what mommy's new purse was designed for) was irresponsible; as to whether it was stupid, or merely a lapse of conscious thought, is not relevant since the outcome speaks for itself.

    Placing prescription medications in a secret pocket ("secured" by a zipper) is likewise neither smart nor responsible if that is located within easy reach of the child (or pet) since exploring and curiosity are natural actions. Anything dangerous, especially guns and drugs, requires more than simply placing them out of sight yet within easy reach. The first thing that I do with my pistol when I carry it is to insert the magazine and chamber a round - the first thing that I do after carrying it is to remove the magazine and clear the chambered round. I never store the pistol and the magazine(s) together even if I am "nearby" which you seem to define as within pistol range.
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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    From your own link:
    From your link:
    (9) While in any motor vehicle, inside the limits or confines of any city, a person shall not carry a concealed weapon on or about his person without a license to carry a concealed weapon. This shall not apply to any firearm located in plain view whether it is loaded or unloaded. A firearm may be concealed legally in a motor vehicle so long as the weapon is disassembled or unloaded.

    http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/...ECT18-3302.htm
    So you don't need a permit to carry in any rural setting, nor if you're carrying openly. And that link continues to say a permit holder is exempt from criminal background checks when buying a gun. Cool.
    Last edited by Jerry; 12-31-14 at 10:58 PM.

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Having a gun in your car 'encourages the owner to leave the gun unattended.'
    Exactly. So if you're going to leave a gun in your car you need to keep a trigger lock or similar in your car for it.

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    And you cannot carry on school grounds.. and you cannot carry if the property owner forbids it.. and you cannot carry on college campuses unless you have an enhanced carry.. which is different than a regular concealed carry.
    This was a Walmart, not a school or collage.

    Walmart's policy on guns is to comply with the local law, which means if the law allows it, Walmart allows it. Even if a manager got a hair up their ass and posted signs, carrying against the property owner's wishes is legal in ID.
    Last edited by Jerry; 12-31-14 at 11:10 PM.

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I agree but also like I said, it may have been a momentary lapse of a woman juggling 4 kids in Walmart. A very costly lapse.
    Perhaps the last thing she should have had in her purse was a gun....if she was juggling 4 kids a Walmart.

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Exactly. So if you're going to leave a gun in your car you need to keep a trigger lock or similar in your car for it.
    I have a safe in the trunk for mine. I usually have my carry piece on me with the bigger heavier 40 in the trunk with four loaded magazines



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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    If it is a two year old toddler, hell yeah!!!!!

    Not only would you be responsible, you would have CPS crawling up your butt trying to find out how your 2 year old escaped from your supervision long enough to find an unlocked car with keys in the ignition, is there long enough to figure out the ignition and emergency brake and reach the gas pedal.
    A 15 year old is still a child.

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    A 15 year old is still a child.
    explain how that was responsive to the post you quoted

    thanks



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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    explain how that was responsive to the post you quoted

    thanks
    I think iguanaman has started celebrating the new year

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