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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    A lot of people will also get away with driving home tonight while being intoxicated, but I would hate to be them if they're caught.
    what happens if I'm caught? I immediately leave, and if the FedEx people try to hold me there they're committing unlawful imprisonment which is a felony and I can use reasonable force to escape...
    I know the law very well.
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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    A lot of people will also get away with driving home tonight while being intoxicated, but I would hate to be them if they're caught.
    True but in the issue being discussed, in our state, as long as we leave when asked, we are not acting illegally and wont be charged.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Some two year olds can operate "child proof caps" on medicine... some can manage to get onto counters..


    Trying to make out that a child getting a weapon means that the owner was inherently irresponsible is not going to work.
    Who, other than the (now dead) person, placed both the gun and the two year old in the same shopping basket?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Who, other than the (now dead) person, placed both the gun and the two year old in the same shopping basket?
    That does not make her inherently irresponsible.

    The gun was in a specially designed purse.... not open in the basket with the child.

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    That does not make her inherently irresponsible.

    The gun was in a specially designed purse.... not open in the basket with the child.
    Did you not just explain that "child proof" caps are often ineffective? Now you seem to assert that a mere zipper should have been reasonably expected to prevent access to the gun. That is, indeed, inherently irresponsible.
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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yes. Otherwise what's the difference between them snatching my purse with a gun in it as opposed to not having one in it?

    However if I was wrong, I apologize.
    If someone grabbed her purse, that could feasibly have been a bonanza for a thief, and could possible resulted in a gun making it's way to the street.

    Most women I have ever seen shopping usually keep their purses with them, even when accompanied by children.

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Read it again!!

    They are referring to carrying the gun in a vehicle.

    If it is in plain view, you are OK - if it is concealed in the vehicle it must be broken down.

    The only restriction for CCW is that you cannot be under the influence of alcohol.
    Show me the part where it states you can carry a loaded firearm concealed, into a store or place of business.

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    Re: Mom Shot, Killed By 2-Year-Old Son at Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    If someone grabbed her purse, that could feasibly have been a bonanza for a thief, and could possible resulted in a gun making it's way to the street.

    Most women I have ever seen shopping usually keep their purses with them, even when accompanied by children.
    No different than a gun kept in your car or your home, also frequently robbed. We should not be held responsible for the criminal acts of others.

    What about if someone steals my car and uses it in a crime (happened)? Or kills someone with it? Am I to be held responsible? No.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Show me the part where it states you can carry a loaded firearm concealed, into a store or place of business.
    Why should it specify? Our WA St law doesnt specify where you can carry, only where you cant. Basically federal or other govt properties.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Show me the part where it states you can carry a loaded firearm concealed, into a store or place of business.
    criminal laws make things ILLEGAL not legal.

    if something is not illegal then it is legal by definition. so you show me the Idaho Statute making it ILLEGAL to carry in Walmart.
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