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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    This article has the most ridiculous quote I've ever read:

    "She was not the least bit irresponsible. She was taken much too soon."

    Leaving a loaded weapon in easy reach of a child isn't irresponsible? Wow. Is that what they would have said if the child shot one of his cousin's - that the mother wasn't being an absolute moron for letting the situation unfold?

    Darwin Award. Good thing it wasn't one of the kids. Apparently it was just waiting to happen.
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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    This article has the most ridiculous quote I've ever read:

    "She was not the least bit irresponsible. She was taken much too soon."

    Leaving a loaded weapon in easy reach of a child isn't irresponsible? Wow. Is that what they would have said if the child shot one of his cousin's - that the mother wasn't being an absolute moron for letting the situation unfold?

    Darwin Award. Good thing it wasn't one of the kids. Apparently it was just waiting to happen.
    before my now 16 year old son became skilled with pistols, we kept the bedroom defense gun in a easy access safe. I also kept a SW 45 in my nightstand with the magazine on my person. that SW will not fire without the magazine in it but I could easily load it if need be. Leaving a ready to fire pistol anywhere an untrained child can get it is moronic



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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    This article has the most ridiculous quote I've ever read:

    "She was not the least bit irresponsible. She was taken much too soon."

    Leaving a loaded weapon in easy reach of a child isn't irresponsible? Wow. Is that what they would have said if the child shot one of his cousin's - that the mother wasn't being an absolute moron for letting the situation unfold?

    Darwin Award. Good thing it wasn't one of the kids. Apparently it was just waiting to happen.
    Of course it wasn't responsible, you gonna go say that in person to the family?

    They're grieving ok, that's why things like that are said, respect for the dead and all
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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Although I prefer having manual safeties on my guns I agree that its debatable as to its effectiveness. I think the more important aspect is whether you chamber a round in a semi-auto or not. Personally I think if youre not a cop there's no reason to do so if you want to be really safe, especially if you have small kids.
    I carry revolvers, so I stay out of the chambered v empty debate
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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Of course it wasn't responsible, you gonna go say that in person to the family?

    They're grieving ok, that's why things like that are said, respect for the dead and all
    In public, anyway.
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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I carry revolvers, so I stay out of the chambered v empty debate
    old six shooters were always carried with an empty chamber under the hammer. it didn't slow down your shot and it was a safety act because the old SAs could shoot if the hammer was hit

    I carry a SA SIG 9mm with the chamber empty and I practice weekly drawing it and racking the slide as I shoot. its still under 1.5 seconds to draw and shoot from an IWB Stoner (Turtle endorsed-a local maker) holster



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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Once I had my first kid I got my gun out of my house. Once my kids are old enough I might bring it back. It is a peace of mind thing for me.

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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    old six shooters were always carried with an empty chamber under the hammer. it didn't slow down your shot and it was a safety act because the old SAs could shoot if the hammer was hit

    I carry a SA SIG 9mm with the chamber empty and I practice weekly drawing it and racking the slide as I shoot. its still under 1.5 seconds to draw and shoot from an IWB Stoner (Turtle endorsed-a local maker) holster
    Well I would never carry a gun without a transfer bar or fire pin block safety, my revolvers are all modern double action, I carry all chambers loaded, I have no qualms about doing so.

    I know the cowboy action guns should be carried that way, although ruger now makes the vaquero with a transfer bar safety that is safe to carry all six
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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    This article has the most ridiculous quote I've ever read:

    "She was not the least bit irresponsible. She was taken much too soon."

    Leaving a loaded weapon in easy reach of a child isn't irresponsible? Wow. Is that what they would have said if the child shot one of his cousin's - that the mother wasn't being an absolute moron for letting the situation unfold?

    Darwin Award. Good thing it wasn't one of the kids. Apparently it was just waiting to happen.
    I'm sorry but I don't see here death as inevitable. She bought the NRA kool-aid and is dead for it. I'm sure she actually believed that her gun could never hurt her only make her safer. That is what the NRA is selling..peace of mind. It doesn't include any of the "ugly" side of gun ownership and neither do gun dealers. Like that fact that your own gun is 10 times more likely to kill you or a loved one than a bad guy. If she had known the risks she would probably be alive today...a lot of people would. Guns are not for everyone, and selling them like appliances is criminal negligence.
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    Re: Toddler shoots and kills mother in Hayden Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I'm sorry but I don't see here death as inevitable. She bought the NRA kool-aid and is dead for it. I'm sure she actually believed that her gun could never hurt her only make her safer. That is what the NRA is selling..peace of mind. It doesn't include any of the "ugly" side of gun ownership and neither do gun dealers. Like that fact that your own gun is 10 times more likely to kill you or a loved one than a bad guy. If she had known the risks she would probably be alive today...a lot of people would. Guns are not for everyone, and selling them like appliances is criminal negligence.
    I love the hysterical gun banners trying to blame the NRA for this.

    and your moronic statistics are moronic
    you are far more likely to survive unhurt an encounter with a criminal if you are armed. and killing a criminal is not the only way to survive an attack

    Look, we get the fact that you are afraid of guns and despise gun owners for not being far left socialists

    but your silly rants about the NRA without having any clue why this woman had a gun are specious BS



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